Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Plot hole?

Ford W Maverick · Dec 4, 2011

The way I always understood it the Grail couldn't leave the building, but drinking from the Grail just once didn't grant you immortality. Drinking from the Grail once healed you, continuing to drink from it over time kept healing you rendering you, in effect, immortal. But since the Grail couldn't cross the seal you had to stay with the Grail.

ronski · Dec 5, 2011

Ford W Maverick said:
The way I always understood it the Grail couldn't leave the building, but drinking from the Grail just once didn't grant you immortality. Drinking from the Grail once healed you, continuing to drink from it over time kept healing you rendering you, in effect, immortal. But since the Grail couldn't cross the seal you had to stay with the Grail.

I always assumed that you would be immortal as long as you didn't cross the seal. (The other knights died sometime after they left the temple due to old age, if I'm not mistaken) But I think I like this theory better!

Ford W Maverick · Dec 7, 2011

I mean, I could be wrong, but that's the way I understood it from having watched the movie about a million times.

CTF · Dec 7, 2011

We need a bigger plot hole to bury that turd in.

Zykotec · Dec 8, 2011

I have always wondered what that lone knight has been up to all these years. I mean, did he just sit there? Day after day, year after year, waiting for someone to come by? Seriously, hundreds of years, all alone !!! ...

Too Much Garlic · Dec 8, 2011

He was reading, praying, drinking from the cup... but... what did he eat?

thegreatgalling · Dec 8, 2011

Goonie said:
If the grail stayed behind, then I guess he was immortal... :confused

I am with the camp that says the grail AND the person cannot cross the seal.

My interpretation is that immortality was intended for the grail's protectors, not everyone. Drinking it provides healing powers, but not immortality.

The Knights brought the grail to where God intended it to stay, and we're given that power as long as it stayed.

thegreatgalling · Dec 8, 2011

:thumbsup

thegreatgalling said:
I am with the camp that says the grail AND the person cannot cross the seal.

My interpretation is that immortality was intended for the grail's protectors, not everyone. Drinking it provides healing powers, but not immortality.

The Knights brought the grail to where God intended it to stay, and we're given that power as long as it stayed.

EDIT: haha. Above was a glitch from my Iphone that double posted for some reason. I guess Siri agreed with me. I left it because that was too funny.

Treadwell · Dec 8, 2011

cboath said:
Enter the grail room at age 40, drink from the cup and hang out behind the seal for 1,000 years. Decide 1,000 years is enough, leave the grail room and cross the seal and the age process kicks back into gear.

This...

Ford W Maverick said:
The way I always understood it the Grail couldn't leave the building, but drinking from the Grail just once didn't grant you immortality. Drinking from the Grail once healed you, continuing to drink from it over time kept healing you rendering you, in effect, immortal. But since the Grail couldn't cross the seal you had to stay with the Grail.

...and this.

Too Much Garlic said:
He was reading, praying, drinking from the cup... but... what did he eat?

He didn't need to. Drinking from the Grail sustained him. (And his faith, I guess, as that is probably a prerequisite for the Grail to work.)

Lightning · Dec 8, 2011

It's made very clear at the beginning. The 2 brothers walk out of the desert hundreds of years later but only one of them made it and "before dying of extreme old age" told the story to the franciscan friar. There is still aging while drinking but it keeps you healthy. I'm sure the Knight in the Temple was much younger looking the first time he drank from the grail.

Treadwell · Dec 8, 2011

Yes, I agree, or maybe slows aging waaay down but doesn't stop it (he was what, a thousand years old at that point?). Or he wasn't drinking it often enough. Tired of having to pee.

Too Much Garlic · Dec 8, 2011

Treadwell said:
Yes, I agree, or maybe slows aging waaay down but doesn't stop it (he was what, a thousand years old at that point?). Or he wasn't drinking it often enough. Tired of having to pee.

Maybe that was what was in the pool... old pee.

The Rock-a-who · Dec 8, 2011

Ford W Maverick said:
The way I always understood it the Grail couldn't leave the building, but drinking from the Grail just once didn't grant you immortality. Drinking from the Grail once healed you, continuing to drink from it over time kept healing you rendering you, in effect, immortal. But since the Grail couldn't cross the seal you had to stay with the Grail.

So, MY arguement about this film...why did the grail work before they wound up there and constructed that temple? Why there? Did they suddenly decide the grail was too powerful and retcon'd it? :lol

Laspector · Dec 8, 2011

It's warrenty was about to run out.

Treadwell · Dec 9, 2011

Joseph of Arimathea: "I treasure this vessel since it was used by our Lord, but I wonder what it might be capable of if I drink water from it taken from a spring in a cave in a crescent-shaped canyon due east from an oasis near a mountain near a city?"

Jeyl · Dec 9, 2011

Immortality didn't work past the seal? Well, that makes stopping the germans entirely pointless.

thegreatgalling · Dec 9, 2011

In the classic tales, Sir Arthur's Kight, Galahad, (sometimes Lancelot, and sometimes all the Knights of the Round Table) see an ethereal vision of the Grail. This usually provides its location. Typically, three of the Knights go on the quest, which this tale was strongly based on. Here, however, one of the Knights was named Sir Richard, and the other two were his brothers, separating it from Aurthur Grail lore.

I always assumed these brothers would be guided by visions. Namely where the Grail is, and where it should rest.

I do wish that the Knight was Sir. Galahad of the original legend, as that would have been really cool. For whatever reason, Spielberg changed the names of the Knights. If they were Round Table Knights, Merlin also has visions which help them find the Grail.

Megamicrofish · Dec 9, 2011

Too Much Garlic said:
He was reading, praying, drinking from the cup... but... what did he eat?

Yes, What did he eat ?
Also, Did he have an endless supply of fuel for the lamps ?

Treadwell · Dec 9, 2011

Jeyl said:
Immortality didn't work past the seal? Well, that makes stopping the germans entirely pointless.

:eek Good point!

Too Much Garlic · Dec 9, 2011

Past the seal and the temple falls down around you... no mention that it wouldn't actually stop working outside the seal. + at that time in the story, it was more a spiritual quest for Indy rather than a physical object and whether he'd be able to let go of his quest.

Though, IF it stopped working past the seal, it wasn't until talking with the knight that Indy actually learned that... up until then it was like the quest for the Ark, thinking it was functional if you took possession of it... and at the time he actually hear about not taking it past the seal it was no longer to beat the Germans as much as saving his father.

But... none of the people actually drinking from it never really gained immortality... they just lived longer than normal people and were healed from ailments. So, the immortality label on the thing seems like an exaggeration or a wives tale added on top.

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