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    Sep 7, 2012 - I need your help ranking robots! #1

    Working on a new print, and I need to rank some cinematic automatons from good to evil (or from evil to good).

    DALEK
    BSG CYLON
    MARIA
    IG-88
    BENDER
    WESTWORLD ANDROID
    VINCENT
    ROBBIE
    GORT
    ROBOCOP
    THE IRON GIANT
    MAXMILLIAN
    K-9
    TWIKI
    MARVIN
    SILENT RUNNING DROIDS
    WALL-E
    BUBO
    ED209
    T-800
    MECHAKONG
    NOMAD
    FEMBOT
    THX-1138
    C3PO
    R2D2
    FIX-ITS
    BOX
    T-1000
    MECHAGODZILLA
    I'm thinking of 5 categories -
    Morally evil, which I guess would be sentient robots who CHOOSE to be evil. (Fembots?)
    Neutral Minus - Robots programmed to do bad things (Westworld Cowboy)
    Neutral (Gort)
    Neutral Positive - Robots programmed to be good (Tough one - Seems like the good robots are sentient)
    Morally Good - Sentient robots choosing to to good things (Johnny 5)
    What's tougher is that I want rank each category from least to most.

    Thoughts?
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #2

    I predict many fights over this list...

    But love it! Makes you think.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #3

    where do you put the T800?
    Right in the middle?
    IG88?
    Marvin?
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #4

    Joe Campbell said: View Post
    where do you put the T800?
    Tough, it's programmed to do evil but he's a part of Skynet which does the programming... So he could be sentient evil. Unless you put into perspective that he's eliminating a threat to his existence in which case he's "doing good". Then in T2 he's the good guy. Programmed to do good.

    Starts getting murky really quick.


    Joe Campbell said: View Post
    IG88?
    I'd call him sentient. But is being a bounty hunter actually bad? Has to make a living, why not help law enforcement? Probably a neutral as well.


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    Marvin?
    Even harder. Sentient but so bummed out over never being challenged that he doesn't care good or bad. Another neutral I think... (see the trend?)
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #5

    Maybe before dividing it into the categories you have you separate them into sentient & non-sentient.

    Then take the sentient list and divide them between good/bad/neutral. Take the non-sentient list and divide them into programmed good/bad.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #6

    that's a good idea, Orangey!
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #7

    Now, can Cybermen be added to the list? And if so, what would they fall under?
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #8

    Shade88 said: View Post
    Now, can Cybermen be added to the list? And if so, what would they fall under?
    They aren't robots.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #9

    Programming aside (they are robots) I'd say you'd have to specify in the context of the movie (and in some cases, a specific movie cause the T-800 varies)

    In that way there is Good (Iron Giant), neutral (Silent running), bad (Cylon) - then rate their deeds against the others in their group

    As you've seen, getting into Sentience and the like will compound the problem of catagorizing.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #10

    Talisen said: View Post
    Programming aside (they are robots) I'd say you'd have to specify in the context of the movie (and in some cases, a specific movie cause the T-800 varies)

    In that way there is Good (Iron Giant), neutral (Silent running), bad (Cylon) - then rate their deeds against the others in their group

    As you've seen, getting into Sentience and the like will compound the problem of catagorizing.
    Depends on your definition of sentience. C3P0 & R2D2 make their own decisions so I would call them sentient. There is a big difference between choosing to do good/bad and being forced to...

    Oh, and Daleks aren't robots either. If you have them you should have Cybermen.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #11

    I don't know Dr. Who that well. Tempted to have one robot from each property, but I guess if I do that, I've got to dump C3PO or R2....
    I dunno.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #12

    Dump 3P0!
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    Talisen said: View Post
    Dump 3P0!
    Agreed. If you have to dump one it's 3P0.

    I'm trying to think of a recurring "robot" bad guy in Who. Both Daleks & Cybermen have organic beings (granted engineered ones) controlling them.

    Possibly the Autons? Although in nuWho they kind of messed up the whole programmed thing.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #14

    You need to add Tom Servo and Cherry 2000.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #15

    Good Call!
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #16

    Hmmm...Where is Model B-9 from Lost in Space?
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #17

    rcurry said: View Post
    Hmmm...Where is Model B-9 from Lost in Space?
    Definitely need that one!
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #18

    Orange_Blend said: View Post
    They aren't robots.
    True, true. Just got into The Doctor, so it's taking sometime getting used to what is what. lol.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #19

    Shade88 said: View Post
    Now, can Cybermen be added to the list? And if so, what would they fall under?
    Orange_Blend said: View Post
    They aren't robots.
    neither are daleks, yet they are on top of the list
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    Shade88 said: View Post
    True, true. Just got into The Doctor, so it's taking sometime getting used to what is what. lol.
    Easy mistake to make!

    EyeofSauron said: View Post
    neither are daleks, yet they are on top of the list
    Which is why I said:

    Orange_Blend said: View Post
    I'm trying to think of a recurring "robot" bad guy in Who. Both Daleks & Cybermen have organic beings (granted engineered ones) controlling them.
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #21

    i seem to have skipped that xD
    my bad, sorry?
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    EyeofSauron said: View Post
    i seem to have skipped that xD
    my bad, sorry?
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #23

    I left B9 off because he looks so much like Robby
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #24

    Joe Campbell said: View Post
    I left B9 off because he looks so much like Robby
    You can't man, that's like saying 3P0 looks too much like Maria. B9 is totally his own character!

    DANGER! DANGER!
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    Sep 7, 2012 - Re: I need your help ranking robots! #25

    You mention Johhny 5, but don't have him on your list. But either way, this is a pretty interesting read. I am enjoying this. I was also going to suggest V.I.C.I. from Small Wonder, but realized that was a show, and Chip, from Not Quite Human. But also thought, TV movie.
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