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    Feb 1, 2011, 10:56 AM - re: Godzilla (2014) #26

    I do have hope it can be good.

    The first film is pure classic greatness.

    Where the Japanese films have always fallen short later, is they can be very cheesy and hokey to western audiences.
    Part of the charm of course. Either you get it or you don't. But now and then they blow you away with material that is incredible impactful, I love the Japanese films, but I've always known there is a higher level it could be taken to.

    I will be looking for certain things..
    Godzilla as force of nature, as payback for reckless use of nukes, Godzilla as both our destructor and champion (that whole love/hate thing the Toho films portray) Godzilla as an intelligence. He isn't stupid, he has his own reasons for doing things, more then animal instinct, it's not an intelligence we understand, but it's there. And of course....Godzilla as hero!
    Yes, I admire Big G! LOL He never gives up and fights until the end.
    Who didn't feel bad when the oxygen destroyer gets him at the end of the original?

    Now having seen Monsters, I think there is a good chance that guy will understand.
    Give it a watch, it's a bit of an odd film, but I think there is hope.
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    Feb 1, 2011, 11:23 AM - re: Godzilla (2014) #27

    I should preface my little diatribe with the fact that i have been a life long godzilla fan myself, but i honestly do not want this movie to be made. The franchise has seen its day and should be left in the annals of film history with nostalgia and a bit of dignity lest it suffer the fate of Star Wars (CGI Clone Wars anyone?). Godzilla as a commentary on the dangers of nuclear proliferation and the abuse/misuse of atomic energy just doesn't have as much an impact as it did back in the 50's on account of the aftermath of Hiroshima, as well as the 80's on account of the Cold War. That being said, I will more than likely still watch this movie on account of it being a Godzilla Movie...

    On To the creature design. I hate to say it, but the 1998 pseudo Godzilla design (Known as GINO in some circles) makes a great deal more sense than this thing as a theoretical animal. The new design looks like that of a Dromaeosaur (a family of bird-like dinosaurs which includes Velociraptor) mixed with the classic Godzilla design. The bird-like leg design hints at a streamlined animal that moves like an ostrich or a T-rex with its body leaning forward and a long tail jutting backwards for balance which this design obviously isn't.

    *takes breath*

    Rant over, sorry folks just had to get that out . ^_^
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    Feb 1, 2011, 12:02 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #28

    MrGzilla said: View Post
    what? there was no 2008 version, unles your talking about "godzilla 3d to the max"
    Heck no. They called it Cloverfield.

    Sorry, to me it was just a Godzilla movie... and a good one! Don't mean to upset the purists.
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    Feb 1, 2011, 12:07 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #29

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    Heck no. They called it Cloverfield.

    Sorry, to me it was just a Godzilla movie... and a good one! Don't mean to upset the purists.
    Ohh hahaha I liked cloverfield because it was a really good movie, but to me it wasn't a giant monster movie, especially not a Godzilla movie. It focused too much on the human interaction side of things rather that on the monster and it worked out great, just not as a monster movie.
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    Feb 1, 2011, 12:19 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #30

    MrGzilla said: View Post
    Ohh hahaha I liked cloverfield because it was a really good movie, but to me it wasn't a giant monster movie, especially not a Godzilla movie. It focused too much on the human interaction side of things rather that on the monster and it worked out great, just not as a monster movie.


    lol. I'm very skeptical of any new Godzilla movies. I loved them as a kid, but it seems like the only one I can go back and watch is the original film. The newer ones just seem to get campier and campier. But if they make this new one with the same seriousness and emotion as the original, I'll be fine with it.

    I'm not digging the new design though. I like the spikiness, but the arm spikes kind of throw the design off and make him/her/it look too bird like. And if you look at the feet of Redzilla second pic, it seems to look almost like he's wearing high-top sneakers
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    Feb 1, 2011, 2:56 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #31

    MooMooEgg said: View Post
    I'm not digging the new design though. I like the spikiness, but the arm spikes kind of throw the design off and make him/her/it look too bird like. And if you look at the feet of Redzilla second pic, it seems to look almost like he's wearing high-top sneakers
    Well if he is a mix between a T-rex and a Stegosaurus, then the feathers thing should be somewhat incorporated
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    Feb 1, 2011, 3:41 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #32

    The feather/spines on the arm are just a bad idea, Godzilla wasn't a t-Rex, he was a godzillasourous and did not even look like a t rex so theres no reason he should have them
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    Feb 1, 2011, 5:35 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #33

    CessnaDriver said: View Post
    I read they hired the Monsters dirctor for this film.

    He hasn't had a lot of experience. I actually saw Monsters at the local art house theater.

    It showed great promise, but the film didn't really know what it wanted to be.

    Jeez I hope not. That movie went no where. It seemed like it had a lot of promise but didn't deliver anything.

    As for the pics, I think the design stinks. He looks like the bush monster.
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    Feb 1, 2011, 6:50 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #34

    ^Bush monster?! Ha! Sounds like a porno gone bad. very bad.
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    Feb 1, 2011, 8:04 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #35

    MrGzilla said: View Post
    The feather/spines on the arm are just a bad idea, Godzilla wasn't a t-Rex, he was a godzillasourous and did not even look like a t rex so theres no reason he should have them

    I never said he was a T-rex, I said he was a combo
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    Feb 2, 2011, 1:34 AM - re: Godzilla (2014) #36

    I hated Cloverfield because of the monster design and I could really care less if all those silver spoon kids died or not. Now that you bring it up - I'm sure that's the way Legendary will take it. i read a script a year or so ago meant to be made as a Godzilla Strikes back kinda thing, but it was wayyy Hanna Barberra - humans ended up finding out why Godzilla was mad and they ended up being friends with him by the end of the movie. HA!

    Anyone remember this -
    YouTube - NIKE commercial with Godzilla and Charles Barkley

    Also, didja know, the Godzilla from the original was a boy and the one we grew up with later who fought Mothera, Mechagodzilla and countless others was a girl - she lays the egg and has Minya on Monster island. My Japanese has gotten good enough to understand some of the movies and in Destroy All Monsters they talk about how this was the case and in other films they refer to Godzilla as "She".
    Now you know the rest of the story.
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    Feb 2, 2011, 6:50 AM - re: Godzilla (2014) #37

    Jet Beetle said: View Post
    she lays the egg and has Minya on Monster island. My Japanese has gotten good enough to understand some of the movies and in Destroy All Monsters they talk about how this was the case and in other films they refer to Godzilla as "She".
    Now you know the rest of the story.
    godzilla never layed minyas egg, he found it being attacked by other monsters and kinda adopted it, i dont think he/she ever layed eggs except in the 98 abomination.
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    Feb 2, 2011, 6:59 AM - re: Godzilla (2014) #38

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    godzilla never layed minyas egg, he found it being attacked by other monsters and kinda adopted it, i dont think he/she ever layed eggs except in the 98 abomination.
    Maybe your right - i have all of the movies from Japan in the box set they released that came inside the "Oxygen Destroya" - I watched Destroy All Monsters and the conversation in Japanese talks about how this Godzilla was female - I assumed she laid the egg - I need to rewatch the one with Minya again. They call her "she" in almost every movie and the overlord in Godzilla vs Megalon" even says it a couple of times. "Her strength is only matched by her wit" Course - this is right before Godzilla does the flying kick.
    YouTube - Godzilla flying kick
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    Feb 2, 2011, 5:46 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #39

    When, oh when will they cover just where those monsters go poo?! I mean it must be massive, explosive, and deadly.
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    Feb 2, 2011, 6:06 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #40

    MooCriket said: View Post
    When, oh when will they cover just where those monsters go poo?! I mean it must be massive, explosive, and deadly.
    I used to wonder the same thing about Clifford the big red dog.

    Godzilla absorbs and and gives off radiation, so figure he is mostly nuke powered so eating isn't too often. who knows about the rest though.

    I wouldn't want to park my car near Rodan.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 11:13 AM - re: Godzilla (2014) #41

    Last i checked, the most japanese pronouns are gender neutral save for kanojo (when used informally refers to a girlfriend). And i have never heard godzilla referred to as such.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 11:25 AM - re: Godzilla (2014) #42

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    Last i checked, the most japanese pronouns are gender neutral save for kanojo (when used informally refers to a girlfriend). And i have never heard godzilla referred to as such.
    thats what i was thinking too, but wasnt sure. i just like to think of him as a he because that makes him more menacing i think. just my opinion though
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    Feb 3, 2011, 12:26 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #43

    If you want menacing, what could possibly be more menacing that a menstrating B giant monster terrorizing your city!
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    Feb 3, 2011, 1:16 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #44

    Godzilla has always been billed as King of Monsters.


    He is male.

    I figure the egg was just laying around and mutated by radiation in some origin simliar to Godzilla.

    Any female egg layers never got mutated, or were extinct.

    Plus here is Godzilla with his lovely off screen wife...



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    Feb 3, 2011, 1:26 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #45

    Oh my and a different girl here:

    He's a playa.

    Phase Pistol also proved difinitely that he is a dude with this candid pic. Helloooo ladies, yes this IS what you think it is. I can raise them this high.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 4:06 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #46

    CessnaDriver said: View Post
    Godzilla has always been billed as King of Monsters.


    He is male.

    I figure the egg was just laying around and mutated by radiation in some origin simliar to Godzilla.

    Any female egg layers never got mutated, or were extinct.

    Plus here is Godzilla with his lovely off screen wife...



    haha i love that pic! its from godzilla raids again, the suit was so hot that the guy inside would pass out walking from set to set and the vision was so poor that he needed someone to escort him
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    Feb 3, 2011, 5:20 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #47

    Those first suits sounded like pure horror to be in them.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 7:55 PM - #48

    CessnaDriver said: View Post
    Godzilla has always been billed as King of Monsters.


    He is male.

    I figure the egg was just laying around and mutated by radiation in some origin simliar to Godzilla.

    Any female egg layers never got mutated, or were extinct.

    Plus here is Godzilla with his lovely off screen wife...



    Godzilla was billed as king of monsters in the first movie - the first godzilla was a boy - and the whole king of monsters title i believe was slapped on by america. I put a call to a great friend of mine who has worked at Toho and on godzilla since the 70s - im going to see what he says about it.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 8:02 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #49

    CessnaDriver said: View Post
    Those first suits sounded like pure horror to be in them.
    they were. the suit for the first movie was the first time anyone had ever done suitmation so there was no set way of making it so they used bamboo, chicken wire, and cheep silicone(i think) wich dried rock hard. the suit was over 200 pounds and had almost no movement in it. the actor would constantly pass out without anyone even knowing because the suit was so rigid it stood up by itself. he almost drowned in it a couple of times too. and the suit for the second movie wasnt much better. its amazing that the movie came out so good with so many problems with the suit.
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    Feb 3, 2011, 9:07 PM - re: Godzilla (2014) #50

    I have Japanese trading cards that have "King of Monsters" printed on the cards.

    I think the question only got presented because of Iguana-zilla.

    And King Kong wouldn't hit a girl.

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