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    Aug 9, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #201

    Angelus Lupus said: View Post
    Tom (not being unfair) is looking rather different these days. On the one hand I'd love to see him back on screen, but I'm not sure they could get away with the same excuse they used for Peter Davidson looking a little older. After all, Tom's hair is now a rather dashing white.
    Maybe if they used some Hollywood CGI trickery to have him act, but overlay him with a younger version? So long as the story is good, though.
    If they're smart, they'd come up with a story where the doctor's should have aged...Obviously there's no way to stick a guy in a current show who last occupied the role 30 years ago. They did the E space stuff in the past, you could always pull them from a parallel universe. Cheesy? maybe, but as long as you knock that out of the way early, and the rest of the 2-3-4 (or more, i can hope ) hours are a great story, fine by me.
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    Aug 9, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #202

    Aged Clone perhaps?

    Here's something: the 4th took the moral highground in Genesis and didn't destroy the daleks although he left a trap to let them set themselves back some. Maybe 11 is going to take a different route this season?
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    Aug 9, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #203

    cboath said: View Post
    If they're smart, they'd come up with a story where the doctor's should have aged...Obviously there's no way to stick a guy in a current show who last occupied the role 30 years ago. They did the E space stuff in the past, you could always pull them from a parallel universe. Cheesy? maybe, but as long as you knock that out of the way early, and the rest of the 2-3-4 (or more, i can hope ) hours are a great story, fine by me.
    This. He's old. No need to hide it. Any cgi trickery is an affront to the man.

    And definitely use McGann.
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    Aug 9, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #204

    just out of curiosity: does anyone else want to chuck their computer out the window when they read the coments on youtube for a DW video and there are a bunch of fangirls taking up the top cpmments with OMGGGGG TENNNNNNANT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO AWESOME THEY SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIM FOREVER I WORSHIP THE VERY AIR HE BREATHES AND ONCE KILLED A MAN FOR A MICROGRAM OF HIS DNA!!!!!!!! type deal? I mean sure, he was good and all, but as the Doctor himself said in "the Flesh" storyline:"WE'VE MOVED ON FROM THAT!!!"
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    Aug 9, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #205

    I just want to hunt those girls down, hand them a "personal vibrating deep muscle massager" and ask them to use it before surfing the internet so the rest of us can get some enjoyment out of it. The internet...not the other thing.
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    Aug 10, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #206

    To be fair, though, Tennant is one heck of a good looking man.
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    Aug 10, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #207

    On the bright side, I guess it is a good way to figure out who the fangirls are. just post a DW video,have a 2-second clip of tennant mixed in, and see who comments on/ links back to those two seconds. It's Foolproof!
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #209

    I thought Gillan and Darvill were on their way out and the Doctor was getting a new companion...?
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #210

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    I thought Gillan and Darvill were on their way out and the Doctor was getting a new companion...?
    They are and he is. Jenna Louise Coleman is her name, IIRC. The Ponds are in the first batch of episodes, but I'm not sure when they're leaving...if it's the episode before the Christmas Special or the first episode of the 2nd half of the series.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #211

    Here's hoping the Angels in Manhattan is better than when the Daleks visited...

    It's always weird seeing the Doctor in the US. Feels wrong to me.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #212

    Angels is the Ponds' last episode.

    I was wearing a Tardis shirt the other day and the check out girl at the market said, "Oh my God, I can't watch the new season."

    me: "Why?"

    Her: "I heard one of the Ponds is going to die. For real. Not in an alternate universe. Really dead."

    tick tock....
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #213

    Arg! Spoilers!

    Although who knows if it's true... Still, I'll be watching the episode with that in mind...
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #214

    letmebestormy said: View Post
    Angels is the Ponds' last episode.

    I was wearing a Tardis shirt the other day and the check out girl at the market said, "Oh my God, I can't watch the new season."

    me: "Why?"

    Her: "I heard one of the Ponds is going to die. For real. Not in an alternate universe. Really dead."

    tick tock....
    Good.

    Seriously, it's about time a REAL companion died. Not fake dead, not alternate reality dead, but dead dead. The Doctor has faced this before, several times, and it's important that people realize that life with the Doctor is DANGEROUS.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #215

    Solo4114 said: View Post
    Good.

    Seriously, it's about time a REAL companion died. Not fake dead, not alternate reality dead, but dead dead. The Doctor has faced this before, several times, and it's important that people realize that life with the Doctor is DANGEROUS.
    Agreed. I even liked the "Rose stranded" thing. Would have been so much more powerful had she never returned to the series but they spoiled it.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #216

    If I thought she had real info, I wouldn't have posted it. :-)
    It was a funny conversation though.
    I agree with Solo. I don't see it happening, but Moffat needs to bring the scary.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #217

    letmebestormy said: View Post
    If I thought she had real info, I wouldn't have posted it. :-)
    It was a funny conversation though.
    I agree with Solo. I don't see it happening, but Moffat needs to bring the scary.
    Let's get some Adric action happening here!
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #218

    Ha, I was 10yrs old when Earthshock aired. It definitely hit me hard.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #219

    letmebestormy said: View Post
    Ha, I was 10yrs old when Earthshock aired. It definitely hit me hard.
    Adric was certainly not among my most favorite companions but when the end credits rolled silently after his demise I was stunned cold. That moment still has an effect on me every time I see it.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #220

    letmebestormy said: View Post
    Ha, I was 10yrs old when Earthshock aired. It definitely hit me hard.
    As Doctor Who should do from time to time!
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #221

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    Adric was certainly not among my most favorite companions but when the end credits rolled silently after his demise I was stunned cold. That moment still has an effect on me every time I see it.

    When I saw that I thought a similar thing - he's really dead. I was surprised, but the more I thought about it, the more it bugged me. He didn't seem to be a major companion, kind of whiny, doctor didn't seem overly attached to him, and it was his choice and he knew he wouldn't make it. Even at that, in the proceding episodes, there was a total of maybe 15 seconds of mouring over his passing and then nothing til the 20th anniversary episode when he appears as just an image...and even then, no sorrowful response or anything.

    I think it's way past time someone dies and it has a very lasting effect.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #222

    cboath said: View Post
    When I saw that I thought a similar thing - he's really dead. I was surprised, but the more I thought about it, the more it bugged me. He didn't seem to be a major companion, kind of whiny, doctor didn't seem overly attached to him, and it was his choice and he knew he wouldn't make it. Even at that, in the proceding episodes, there was a total of maybe 15 seconds of mouring over his passing and then nothing til the 20th anniversary episode when he appears as just an image...and even then, no sorrowful response or anything.

    I think it's way past time someone dies and it has a very lasting effect.
    Yet when Davison's Doctor died his last word was Adric.

    They did move on pretty quickly though, it was odd. But the last episode we was in was great and the end really made it hit home with the broken star.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #223

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    Yet when Davison's Doctor died his last word was Adric.

    They did move on pretty quickly though, it was odd. But the last episode we was in was great and the end really made it hit home with the broken star.
    yeah, the doc dug Adric if for nothing else he was one of a few companions he could talk high level stuff w/o having to dumb it down.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #224

    Writing back then was a lot less tightly controlled and the arcs were a lot less clearly defined. You had the Black Guardian thing during Davison's period, and the Key to Time during Tom Baker's but otherwise...yeah, it was just a 6-episode or 4-episode or sometimes 2-episode bit of stories (episodes being 22 min back then).


    As such, I think it was a lot less likely that a companion's death or absence would be felt long-term. In addition, with Adric specifically, the production team (in DVD extras -- which are almost always good), discussed how Adric was never clearly defined. They had a character bio, but the charcter himself was never really effectively developed. The scripts for him were very erratic, so, like, in one episode he'd die rather than help the villain because he's loyal to the Doctor, and then in the next, he's all "Oh, you have a lovely idea here for ruling the universe. I'll help you out because it's logical."

    It just didn't make a ton of sense.

    The flipside of this is how they DIDN'T develop the Sixth Doctor who was initially supposed to just be erratic and cranky -- but because he was suffering from a wonky regeneration. Eventually, he was supposed to get darker and more calculating....but it never happened. They just kept writing him as cantankerous and snappy until the very last season with the Trial of a Time Lord. So nobody ever liked him because he never developed. He was just obnoxious (and obnoxiously dressed, instead of the black velvet he was supposed to wear or something).

    JNT strikes again, I guess.
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    Aug 30, 2012 - Re: General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion #225

    Yep. A lot of missed potential with Colin Baker...
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