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    Jun 24, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #26

    Go in with a low enough EMS and Liara will die, plot shields be damned. The pistol came from BioWare's Artistic Integrity™.
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    Jun 24, 2012 - #27

    DuneMuadDib said: View Post
    Go in with a low enough EMS and Liara will die, plot shields be damned. The pistol came from BioWare's Artistic Integrity™.
    What I meant was she was with me on the final mission and then walked off the Normandy after it crashed.

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    Jun 24, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #28

    Yeah, the transporting to the Normandy while Joker leaves you to die bit bugs a lot of us.
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    Jun 24, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #29

    Well that's why I think it was all in Shepard's head.... just the way everything was didn't seem real... one shot kills...random pistol.... etc...etc.... hopefully Tuesday will shed some light on the ending and doesn't leave us in darkness forever.
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    Jun 24, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #30

    Maybe I suck at aiming, but I needed a few shots to kill Marauder Shields.

    The random pistol I just handwave as being a weapon every class can use so it's an easy default. Sort of like how the cinematics will sometimes show you with whatever the default Assault Rifle is instead of what you're actually carrying. The no ammo is just to keep the ending from being interrupted with the reload mechanic as you're railroaded towards picking a color.

    I look at it as most of it is real, but the ending still is a manner of indoctrination. Agreeing with the logic of the Indoctrinated TIM or Saren keeps the Reapers alive, so to me picking Blue or Green is Shepard being Indoctrinated. Red is the only option that the Reapers are against, so that's resisting Indoctrination. All the crap on the Citadel happened, but the color choice is still the moment you submit or resist.
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    Jun 24, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #31

    DuneMuadDib said: View Post
    Maybe I suck at aiming, but I needed a few shots to kill Marauder Shields.

    The random pistol I just handwave as being a weapon every class can use so it's an easy default. Sort of like how the cinematics will sometimes show you with whatever the default Assault Rifle is instead of what you're actually carrying. The no ammo is just to keep the ending from being interrupted with the reload mechanic as you're railroaded towards picking a color.

    I look at it as most of it is real, but the ending still is a manner of indoctrination. Agreeing with the logic of the Indoctrinated TIM or Saren keeps the Reapers alive, so to me picking Blue or Green is Shepard being Indoctrinated. Red is the only option that the Reapers are against, so that's resisting Indoctrination. All the crap on the Citadel happened, but the color choice is still the moment you submit or resist.

    I can see that as being a possibility. I just think it's kind of strange how Anderson and The Illusive Man represent destruction of the reapers or being indoctrinated. This whole dream thing had to of started at some point before all of that because of all the weirdness such as the weird black swirly stuff around Shepard when The Illusive man is supposedly controlling Shep & Anderson during the confrontation. And as the guy who made the theory video pointed out... Shep is bleeding from the exact same spot Anderson was shot at... that's just a little peculiar to me.. I just don't believe that Shepard ever made it to that weird light beam and was transported to the Citadel. I seriously believe it's all in his/her mind.
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    Jun 24, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #32

    One of the debunk videos shows that the rubble Shepard takes the breath in is from the Crucible, not London as the IT originally posited. The bleeding from the same spot bit is suspect to me as well.

    The inky black stuff when TIM shows up is certainly Indoctrination though, it's referenced by the Rachni Queen earlier. It's similar to the effect during Shepard's dream sequences with the kid, which is why I buy into the dreams being somehow connected to Indoctrination. I just don't feel now that there's enough evidence to indicate that the bit on the Citadel didn't actually happen.
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    Jun 24, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #33

    I can see that... i've been trying to keep my mind open to all of this because the way the ending is. We just really don't know for sure! I think that's why so many people hate the ending so much is because it's a mindf*** lol
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    Jun 25, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #34

    The tone of the ME games has NEVER been 'mind****'. Why now? It's not appropriate for the franchise. It's like grafting a 2001 ending onto Star Wars.
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    Jun 25, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #35

    Art Andrews said: View Post
    I still don't understand the "controversy" over the ending. I knew the ending supposedly sucked... got to it, thought it turned out pretty good and never had a real issue.
    I'm betting that your concerns over Mass Effect was that FemShep was written as a man who could do the same things that maleshep could do, and that she even shared his animation as well. Worst attempt at a female character ever.

    Also, Art. Buzz Aldrin says you should buy DLC.
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    Jun 25, 2012 - Re: Do you think that... #36

    Nwerke said: View Post
    The tone of the ME games has NEVER been 'mind****'. Why now? It's not appropriate for the franchise. It's like grafting a 2001 ending onto Star Wars.
    At least the interpretations of what 2001 can make sense. This ending is like the Emperor justifying killing all the Jedi by saying the Jedi were going to kill themselves anyways, and giving Luke three options.

    Control the SIth
    Merge with the Sith (But eliminate hyperspace)
    Destroy the Empire (But eliminate hyperspace)

    And Han, Leia, Chewie, C-3PO and R2-D2 are somehow magically onboard the Millennium Falcon trying to outrun a random space portal that strands them on a random planet. No explanation, no build up, nothing. No one says a word and no one questions what happened. They just look out into the open field and smile.
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