Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Post-release)
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SmilingOtter
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Saw it, really enjoyed it. I can't wait to see how it plays out in Agents of SHIELD.
The Pulp Fiction reference was nicely done as well.
The Pulp Fiction reference was nicely done as well.
Noeland
Master Member
Yeah, I missed the second post credits scene I guess. That sucks. Gives me a reason to see it again. 
If you've been watching Agents of Shield, the movie is a whole payoff to stuff that has happened on the show that I really enjoyed, and it made me want to rewatch some past episodes, and look forward to Tuesday. Hahaha.
It was a lot better than I was expecting. Redford was a much bigger part of the film than I thought he would be. Fury had great scenes in this flick. I even liked The Falcon and I've always disliked that character in the comics.
I had heard RAVES about it going in, I reset my expectations to "can't be as good as they are saying" and hey, yeah, it was. I have to admit I respect them for not being afraid to shake things up, and to keep my interest in what comes next.
If you've been watching Agents of Shield, the movie is a whole payoff to stuff that has happened on the show that I really enjoyed, and it made me want to rewatch some past episodes, and look forward to Tuesday. Hahaha.
It was a lot better than I was expecting. Redford was a much bigger part of the film than I thought he would be. Fury had great scenes in this flick. I even liked The Falcon and I've always disliked that character in the comics.
I had heard RAVES about it going in, I reset my expectations to "can't be as good as they are saying" and hey, yeah, it was. I have to admit I respect them for not being afraid to shake things up, and to keep my interest in what comes next.
Great movie. Definitely worth another viewing.
JediG60racer
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Saw it last night. Loved it.
Is there something that I missed in a previous movie, that Black Widow would suddenly seem interested in Captain America instead of being all hung up on Hawkeye or whatever that archer dude's name is?
Is there something that I missed in a previous movie, that Black Widow would suddenly seem interested in Captain America instead of being all hung up on Hawkeye or whatever that archer dude's name is?
JD
Master Member
Wow. There are thing's I could nitpick - I mean, I thought Falcon's wings were a tad too long :lol It was one heckuva ride, you know it's a good flick when you don't check your phone towards the end to see what time it is - and then you're a bit shocked it was as long as it was. I caught the Strange name drop and the Pulp Fiction reference (brilliant).
Should've I recognized the guy with the monocle in the post-credits scene?
Should've I recognized the guy with the monocle in the post-credits scene?
Father
Sr Member
I loved that too. Very cool
I LOL'ed... very loud... and was the only one that apparently got it in the whole theater.
Loved this movie. Was a little shocked by the Hyrda infiltration of S.H.I.E.L.D. So is there still a S.H.I.E.L.D. after all that?
I haven't been keeping up with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. so I curious how the events of this movie will effect the show.
I figured Fury wouldn't be dead and it's obvious Cap wasn't going to die since we're already seeing scenes for Avengers 2.
Loved Bucky and Falcon was AWESOME. Hope he's in Avengers 2.
PantheraGem
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For myself and a lot of others I'm sure, for reasons I can't discuss here, I feel that the plot of every super-hero movie up to this one ( With the exception of "The First Avenger" ) is almost trivial. There simply has not been a more relevant super-hero movie.
In addition, I found it rather moving. The movie openly laments the looming, complete loss of "The Greatest Generation". My Grandpa was an amazing man, and a WWII vet. I couldn't help but think of him during the Smithsonian and Peggy Carter scenes.
Not just an incredible super-hero movie, but a plain incredible film.
In addition, I found it rather moving. The movie openly laments the looming, complete loss of "The Greatest Generation". My Grandpa was an amazing man, and a WWII vet. I couldn't help but think of him during the Smithsonian and Peggy Carter scenes.
Not just an incredible super-hero movie, but a plain incredible film.
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My Grandfather fought in WWI, got gassed, but recovered enough to become a policeman. My father fought in WWII during Operation Market Garden and was badly shot up. However, the same German soldiers that did it also saw what a young man he was (18)and instead of putting a final bullet in him, patched him up as best they could,gave him a cigarette and left him for the Allies to pickup. That saved his life, and,eventually, allowed mine and my sisters. The effects of the war stayed with him forever, and haunted him to the day he died, but he never really talked about it, until he himself was close to death. And it took watching "Band of Brothers" to do that . In my opinion there is nothing so damaging to the human soul than the horrors of true warfare.
I get what you are saying about the films, but they are just sheer escapism and entertainment, yet The WInter Soldier ,like all the best fiction also had some very subtle and profound truths about human nature buried in it, and I thought , the moral conflict of being a person fighting a war, yet choosing why he fights and what he fights for. That WHY I really appreciated just how well the script was written and just how much more they brought to the Caps character than in the original. And thats why I'm going to see it again tomorrow.
As I've got older and the people I've know have started to disappear from the world, the more I've come to appreciate the sacrifice those generations of young people made for us so we can live we can lead today. And they continue to do so.
I get what you are saying about the films, but they are just sheer escapism and entertainment, yet The WInter Soldier ,like all the best fiction also had some very subtle and profound truths about human nature buried in it, and I thought , the moral conflict of being a person fighting a war, yet choosing why he fights and what he fights for. That WHY I really appreciated just how well the script was written and just how much more they brought to the Caps character than in the original. And thats why I'm going to see it again tomorrow.
As I've got older and the people I've know have started to disappear from the world, the more I've come to appreciate the sacrifice those generations of young people made for us so we can live we can lead today. And they continue to do so.
Riceball
Master Member
I remember that scene but for me it doesn't jive with what I remember seeing in TFA, as I recall, he spent the early part of his time as Cap doing war bond tours and USO shows, then his one big mission is the rescue op for Bucky and sometime after that rescue op he fights the Red Skull and gets turned into a popsicle. I don't remember him doing anything else besides that which is why I thought there was something of a disconnect between the museum exhibit/flashbacks and the events shown in TFA.
Vesper2112
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Saw it three times this past weekend (twice after our local group costumed it, and once at the drive in). LOVED IT! Always loved the Captain America comics growing up in the '80's, so it's really, REALLY good to see justice done to a great character.
third3ye
Sr Member
Yeah, I missed the second post credits scene I guess. That sucks. Gives me a reason to see it again.
I thought the 2nd post-credit was kind of a waste of time, but hey any excuse to see it again right? :thumbsup
I don't see the disconnect here either. TFA just skimmed through all of his missions hunting down Hydra. It wasn't just the Bucky rescue and then the final attack on Red Skull, there was definitely A LOT of ground in between that they didn't show.
Riceball
Master Member
You sure about that, I seem to recall that prior to the rescue & fight with the Red Skull Cap wasn't actually doing any real fighting, he was simply acting as a glorified USO performer and entertaining the troops, he then learns of Bucky being captured and secures permission to rescue him, and that was it. I guess I'll have to watch TFA again to be certain.
PantheraGem
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It's on Netflix. A refresher is not far out of reach.
third3ye
Sr Member
110% sure. There were about 6-7 Hydra bases that Col. Phillips asked Cap to take out and then a montage of random battle scenes when Cap gets his hero suit, implying it was a drawn out campaign to wipe out Hydra in Europe. I think you were thinking of in between the USO tour and Bucky rescue, in which case yes Cap doesn't do anything. But in between the Bucky rescue and the Zola train capture mission is where all those Smithsonian clips would've come in. Also remember Cap doesn't get his hero suit until after the Bucky rescue anyway, which is what the Smithsonian clips show him wearing.
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Not anymore, Netflix took it down a while ago.
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PantheraGem
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Sorry. I wasn't aware.
USO performer. Goes AWOL to save troops and booky. Cue Cap putting team together for montage of blowing up tanks and taking down hydra bases busting down doors. Red skull actually arrives at one after its already been taken out. I think he has a conversation with Zola about pulling his act together.... theyre looking for the main secret base. Which Zola rats on when they catch him.
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Uh... no he didn't secure permission. He went in specifically against orders. After the mission was successful, Colonel Phillips decided that perhaps arresting and punishing the man who brought back all the POWs and some Hydra tech wasn't the best idea.
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