Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun

Jayce · 10-15-2011, 07:38 AM

I got this movie prop that i bought between 2002-2004 if i am right, after all these years i still do not know in what movies and or series it has been used.

Maybe someone here can help me with it.

Here are the pictures:

Certificate of Authenticity

This is to certify that this futuristic ray gun has been a part of the Ellis Collection of Film Props, and that it has been utilized in many sci-fi ? and other films !

Thanks

Nobby · 10-15-2011, 10:44 AM

ooh now that's interesting!

I've just done a quick 'google' regarding the letters/numbers and the little 'crest' on the side.

It may just be my imagination, but the crest looks like it may tie in with the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing (37 TFW):

Jayce · 10-15-2011, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby

ooh now that's interesting!

I've just done a quick 'google' regarding the letters/numbers and the little 'crest' on the side.

It may just be my imagination, but the crest looks like it may tie in with the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing (37 TFW):

Correct, that is the same one.

Nobby · 10-15-2011, 12:50 PM

Hmmm.......
In that case, I think it was more likely used in an Air Force based movie. It looks like it might be some sort of azimuth scope or targeting device.

Jayce · 11-01-2011, 07:28 PM

Late reply from me.

The part where you hold it is from a real gun where you put the magazine in (i am not a gun expert).

The front piece is all black, its not glass but black plastic, it seems to be a mix of different items that is seems to be used as a laser gun.

If i know what it is and where it has been used i can think about keeping or selling it

Bootlegger137 · 11-01-2011, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayce

The part where you hold it is from a real gun where you put the magazine in (i am not a gun expert).

The grip appears to be a pistol grip from an M-16 or M-16A1 (Vietnam Era). Just an FYI, no magazine was inserted into it...it was hollow, I believe, to save weight and for ease of manufacturing.

Really can't help with much else, but definitely an interesting piece.

ThePhoenix · 11-01-2011, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayce

Late reply from me.

The part where you hold it is from a real gun where you put the magazine in (i am not a gun expert).

The front piece is all black, its not glass but black plastic, it seems to be a mix of different items that is seems to be used as a laser gun.

If i know what it is and where it has been used i can think about keeping or selling it

It looks like the guns they made for Johnny Mnemonic
But thats my best guess

Birdie · 11-01-2011, 07:53 PM

Looks like an m16 type grip grafted to a military night-vision scope.

Bowelrock · 11-02-2011, 05:48 AM

looks to me like an aimpoint with the flap shroud left on the front.

Mike J. · 11-02-2011, 06:45 PM

Not Johnny Mnemonic, I'm pretty sure.

Makes me think of something for riding a zipline.

-MJ

The BDK · 11-03-2011, 10:58 AM

The only 2 sci-fi movies listed were Escape from LA and Postman

Could be a random background gun from EFLA I guess or even one of the cameras, its been a while since I've watched the movie.

Deffiantly a neat find!

Jayce · 11-15-2011, 03:34 PM

Some extra information:

if you look closely you can see a horizontal line on the big long part in the middle (not the holding part but the body part), this same line is also to be seen on the other side, it goes all the way untill the end, i can even see it infront on the first outer ring, its not a perfect line, here and there it goes of a little bit but not much.

The other side where i didn't make a picture from except for the prop sticker on the holding part has a ''button'' on the place where the hole is on the other side, it says IMPACT and under it LEFT with a arrow under it going clockwise, i can not turn this button.

The same button is on the top, its the bump sticking out on the first picture, it also says IMPACT and under it UP with the same arow under it.

Left of the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing (37 TFW) sticker mentioned earlier by member Nobby it says ON and under it OFF next of the silver things that seems to be not made of metal.

And i see a big screw inside the holding part straight up.

Also, there seems to be no or little metal parts in it except for the big screw, the body seems to be made of some light yellow resin, you can see it on the fourth picture in the ring, i also see it on the other side on the edges where the paint was worn a little of, also in little hole that can be seen on the first picture one can see the same color, they didn't put the ''sawdust'' out of it, its sticking in there, i was able to get some out of it and it and it feels like some kind of resin, its not hard, the ''buttons'' are also made of this, the texture part on the smaller back part is rubber, the front big round part is thin plastic.

ewokus · 11-15-2011, 05:01 PM

Shoot Paul an e-mail at: Paul@lucasfrancisstudio.com See if he remembers where it came from...

gunnerk19 · 11-15-2011, 06:03 PM

I'm 99% certain it was made from a pistol grip fire nozzle with the bail handle removed and greeblies added on, similar to the one below...

xenomorph · 11-16-2011, 03:31 AM

The grip is definitely from an M16 and front is flip up scope cover like this-

Not sure what the rest of the parts are.....yet.

Jayce · 11-17-2011, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewokus

Shoot Paul an e-mail at: Paul@lucasfrancisstudio.com See if he remembers where it came from...

Thank you.

And thanks everyone for your reply's

Jayce · 11-20-2011, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewokus

Shoot Paul an e-mail at: Paul@lucasfrancisstudio.com See if he remembers where it came from...

Got a reply the same day i send one, here is the info he gave me

I have some bad news, that's not an official COA. while Steve and I did make COA's for one buyer at Ellis, that piece was not one of the 100 COA's we created.

Jayce I took a look at the thread and While that piece may have come from Ellis, the COA is not one of my originals. All of ours had printed lettering and in color.

So it seems my prop might be a fake, last days i thought it might be a stunt version because everything except the holding part is made of resin and the quality is not very good, also i thought it might have been of a whole set done for a bunch of soldiers in a sci fi movie, once again because its cast of original parts (why would you make a resin cast of a scope if you can use the original scope).

Jayce · 11-21-2011, 04:16 AM

So what do you people think, fake or not ? i was more into sci fi when i bought it then i am now so i want to sell it anyway, or if its a fake trow it away ?

Nobby · 11-21-2011, 09:20 AM

I just don't know if someone would go to that much trouble to 'fake' something that is completely unknown.

Yellowjacket · 11-21-2011, 10:08 AM

Nudge somebody at the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing?

Jayce · 11-24-2011, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellowjacket

Nudge somebody at the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing?

I am in Europe

and i don't think they want something just because it has a resin cast of a part of a weapon they have

Jayce · 11-24-2011, 04:30 AM

I decided i want to get rid of it, so what do you people think, how much can i get for it ? if its 100% a fake then i will trow it away.

Rogue · 11-24-2011, 05:08 AM

If I were you I'd be on a mission now to find out exactly what it is. You never know, it might still be something interesting but obscure! At least build up the mystique around it - the "prop that never was", as featured on the RPF!

robstyle · 11-24-2011, 08:17 AM

Its a prop, doesnt mean it was used or made for any major film. There were tons of low and mid budget films made in the past. It could well turn out to be intended as a hand scanner, camera or laser targeting system. Could be unused but its a physical piece. Hope you didnt pay much for it.

Jayce · 11-24-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue

If I were you I'd be on a mission now to find out exactly what it is. You never know, it might still be something interesting but obscure! At least build up the mystique around it - the "prop that never was", as featured on the RPF!

I was lol, but after many years it gets a bit irritating

		Replica Props	Screen Used Props	Replica Costumes	Sculpture and Makeup	General Modeling	Studio Scale Models	Movie Discussion
	Collaborate, create, and collect at the internet's largest community dedicated to props, costumes and models.

10-15-2011, 07:38 AM	#1
Jayce Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun I got this movie prop that i bought between 2002-2004 if i am right, after all these years i still do not know in what movies and or series it has been used. Maybe someone here can help me with it. Here are the pictures: Certificate of Authenticity This is to certify that this futuristic ray gun has been a part of the Ellis Collection of Film Props, and that it has been utilized in many sci-fi ? and other films ! Thanks

10-15-2011, 10:44 AM	#2
Nobby Named after a sheep! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Norwich - UK Posts: 564	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun ooh now that's interesting! I've just done a quick 'google' regarding the letters/numbers and the little 'crest' on the side. It may just be my imagination, but the crest looks like it may tie in with the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing (37 TFW):

10-15-2011, 12:50 PM	#4
Nobby Named after a sheep! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Norwich - UK Posts: 564	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Hmmm....... In that case, I think it was more likely used in an Air Force based movie. It looks like it might be some sort of azimuth scope or targeting device. Last edited by Nobby; 10-15-2011 at 12:53 PM. Reason: spelling

11-01-2011, 07:28 PM	#5
Jayce Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Late reply from me. The part where you hold it is from a real gun where you put the magazine in (i am not a gun expert). The front piece is all black, its not glass but black plastic, it seems to be a mix of different items that is seems to be used as a laser gun. If i know what it is and where it has been used i can think about keeping or selling it

( Don't want to see advertising between posts? Register for free and become a member of our community! )
RPF Sponsors

11-01-2011, 07:53 PM	#8
Birdie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 4,689	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Looks like an m16 type grip grafted to a military night-vision scope.

11-02-2011, 05:48 AM	#9
Bowelrock Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 2,179	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun looks to me like an aimpoint with the flap shroud left on the front.

11-02-2011, 06:45 PM	#10
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Not Johnny Mnemonic, I'm pretty sure. Makes me think of something for riding a zipline. -MJ

11-03-2011, 10:58 AM	#11
The BDK Do you have any TP? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kittanning, PA Posts: 514	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun The only 2 sci-fi movies listed were Escape from LA and Postman Could be a random background gun from EFLA I guess or even one of the cameras, its been a while since I've watched the movie. Deffiantly a neat find!

11-15-2011, 03:34 PM	#12
Jayce Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Some extra information: if you look closely you can see a horizontal line on the big long part in the middle (not the holding part but the body part), this same line is also to be seen on the other side, it goes all the way untill the end, i can even see it infront on the first outer ring, its not a perfect line, here and there it goes of a little bit but not much. The other side where i didn't make a picture from except for the prop sticker on the holding part has a ''button'' on the place where the hole is on the other side, it says IMPACT and under it LEFT with a arrow under it going clockwise, i can not turn this button. The same button is on the top, its the bump sticking out on the first picture, it also says IMPACT and under it UP with the same arow under it. Left of the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing (37 TFW) sticker mentioned earlier by member Nobby it says ON and under it OFF next of the silver things that seems to be not made of metal. And i see a big screw inside the holding part straight up. Also, there seems to be no or little metal parts in it except for the big screw, the body seems to be made of some light yellow resin, you can see it on the fourth picture in the ring, i also see it on the other side on the edges where the paint was worn a little of, also in little hole that can be seen on the first picture one can see the same color, they didn't put the ''sawdust'' out of it, its sticking in there, i was able to get some out of it and it and it feels like some kind of resin, its not hard, the ''buttons'' are also made of this, the texture part on the smaller back part is rubber, the front big round part is thin plastic. Last edited by Jayce; 11-16-2011 at 02:50 AM.

11-15-2011, 05:01 PM	#13
ewokus Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 236	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Shoot Paul an e-mail at: Paul@lucasfrancisstudio.com See if he remembers where it came from...

11-15-2011, 06:03 PM	#14
gunnerk19 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Northfield, Vermont Posts: 1,621	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun I'm 99% certain it was made from a pistol grip fire nozzle with the bail handle removed and greeblies added on, similar to the one below... Attached Thumbnails

11-16-2011, 03:31 AM	#15
xenomorph Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 44	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun The grip is definitely from an M16 and front is flip up scope cover like this- Not sure what the rest of the parts are.....yet.

11-21-2011, 04:16 AM	#18
Jayce Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun So what do you people think, fake or not ? i was more into sci fi when i bought it then i am now so i want to sell it anyway, or if its a fake trow it away ?

11-21-2011, 09:20 AM	#19
Nobby Named after a sheep! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Norwich - UK Posts: 564	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun I just don't know if someone would go to that much trouble to 'fake' something that is completely unknown.

11-21-2011, 10:08 AM	#20
Yellowjacket Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Logan, Utah Posts: 584	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Nudge somebody at the 37th Tactical Fighter Wing?

11-24-2011, 04:30 AM	#22
Jayce Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 21	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun I decided i want to get rid of it, so what do you people think, how much can i get for it ? if its 100% a fake then i will trow it away.

11-24-2011, 05:08 AM	#23
Rogue Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 49	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun If I were you I'd be on a mission now to find out exactly what it is. You never know, it might still be something interesting but obscure! At least build up the mystique around it - the "prop that never was", as featured on the RPF!

11-24-2011, 08:17 AM	#24
robstyle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 11,736	Re: Unknown screen used Sci Fi gun Its a prop, doesnt mean it was used or made for any major film. There were tons of low and mid budget films made in the past. It could well turn out to be intended as a hand scanner, camera or laser targeting system. Could be unused but its a physical piece. Hope you didnt pay much for it.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Just for Fun: Can you identify this sci-fi gun?	Birdie	Replica Movie Props	19	09-30-2008 04:01 AM
newer rifle/prop gun seen in new sci fi's	hydin	Replica Movie Props	6	01-30-2006 09:25 PM