Original Stormtrooper Helmets

My god... that is amazing!

Thank you so much for sharing these pics Braks,and a big thank you to owner of the pics too

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That picture confrims the Hero is def ABS and not painted HDPE.
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I wouldn&#39;t say that Chris.The helmets could be made from another type of white plastic and could also be painted inside and out,just much more carefully than the stunts.It&#39;s quite possible the hero&#39;s were made from the same material as the armour,which I don&#39;t think is any kind of ABS.

-Paul.

EDIT-I think this hero helmet is the &#39;promo&#39; guy&#33;

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That one looks exactly like the ones I saw at Wembley MOM,with the pin holes next to the eyes.Much better than the JJ/Kurtz and the cut down Disney suit&#39;s.Below is a JJ/Kurtz

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May be just me but isnt there something weird in this suit?

Fantastic photos, many thanks for posting those

The mic tips on the hero helmet seem to be made from a different material than the usual white injected stuff, at least in that pic.

On a side note the JJoiner helmet is really a terrible helmet, you could even expect a CO fiberglass helmet to look better than that.

Paul

It may not be ABS but is cannot be painted, there are scuffs but no paint chips, almost every other original painted helmet has paint chips....

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On a side note the JJoiner helmet is really a terrible helmet, you could even expect a CO fiberglass helmet to look better than that.
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It does look terrible but on a side note I had heard the propmaker who made these fibreglass replicas of the helmet and armour only got one day with the originals to make casts so for a days work it aint that bad

One thing to note is that the JJ helmet is actually a cast of the inside on the helmet so if it were vac formed over it may look better???? Also the eyes are cut out too big and the faceplate is mounted in a terrible position (look at the gap between the dome and the faceplate at the forehead).

The whole thing looks very weird.

Fantastic pics, Braks.... big to you and the pics&#39; owner for sharing these

Cheers,
John

Cool pics Braks, thanks for posting them and thanks to the owner

Those pictures confirm that the hero helmets were made from high gloss plastic and not matt white plastic as some people thought.

If the hero helmets were made from the same plastic as the x-wing helmets (and i think they would be) i would say they&#39;re made from acrylic capped styrene or abs.
I didn&#39;t think that acrylic capped plastic would have been available back in 1976, until i saw the
X-wing/Y-wing helmets i saw at the Christie&#39;s auction in London, which were definitely acrylic capped.

Keith.

I wouldn&#39;t say high gloss, but more like a semi-gloss.

Great pictures Brak

I assume they are ANH helmets?If so could the Hero be the one the HF wore?

JJ/Kurtz should be ashamed of that trooper costume,i almost felt physically sick at the sight of that monstrosity

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JJ/Kurtz should be ashamed of that trooper costume,i almost felt physically sick at the sight of that monstrosity
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They should be more ashamed that they have auctioned a couple of them off billed as &#39;tour suits&#39; through Profiles in History auction house. Some people actually paid thousands of pounds for these :o .


Just out of interest does anybody have any good pics they are willing to share of the two TE helmets which are now the DavidM ANH Stunt Helmet and The BrianR ANH Stunt Helmet.

Cheers Chris.

Hey guys. You are very welcome for the pics... just remember, it wasn&#39;t me, directly, that made them available. While I can&#39;t name the picture taker, I want to make sure credit is given where it is due.

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I wouldn&#39;t say high gloss, but more like a semi-gloss.
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Hi Gino,

I don&#39;t know about semi gloss, looking at those pics i don&#39;t think a helmet could be any more gloss than that and thats 30 year old plastic. Look at the picture taken of the front of the hero around the mic tips.
I bet the hero helmets were made from the exact same acrylic capped plastic the X and Y wing helmets were made from and believe me, those were acrylic capped and very shiny.

Keith.

I believe that the same material was used on the x and y wing helmets, it just wasn&#39;t acrylic capped. Keith, I&#39;ll be able to give you some better proof very soon.

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Hi Braks,

Thanks very much for sharing. Also please thank the generous soul who donated these pictures it is much appreciated




Is the hero helmet the one used for all the LFL publicity stills?

The left hand mic tip on the stunt looks way out of position compared to most possibly we can place this on screen now.

Cheers Chris.
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I believe it is, I matched up the pic Matt took with one of the Promo hero and there were too many similarities for it not to be the same. I may post later.

The helmets i saw at Christie&#39;s were acrylic capped.

Keith.

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Hi Braks,

Thanks very much for sharing. Also please thank the generous soul who donated these pictures it is much appreciated




Is the hero helmet the one used for all the LFL publicity stills?

The left hand mic tip on the stunt looks way out of position compared to most possibly we can place this on screen now.

Cheers Chris.
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I believe it is, I matched up the pic Matt took with one of the Promo hero and there were too many similarities for it not to be the same. I may post later.
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I believe it is too. There were some discrepancies but I believe at one point (and I can&#39;t find the pics) we were able to show that it is indeed the helmet see in all the publicity photos.

looks like the bottom trim on the LFL stunt is painted white,and the chin piece is well defined like the(move along trooper)looks like it not painted very well also,might help screen identify it.thanks for posting pic Brak.

If you look at the teeth where the holes have been cut out,it looks like there is another colour....the unpainted plastic?


I still think these hero&#39;s were painted,just like the prototypes were.It also looks like the hero helmets do have the frames around the trapezoids as well

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I still think these hero&#39;s were painted,just like the prototypes
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I have to disagree. On virtually every helmet we have seen, the area underneath the ears is unpainted (yes, I know the Shepperton photos show some helmets without ears that are white) and there is always some amount of paint wear at the ear area where the sharp ear has rubbed paint from the helmet. You can see back into the area under the ear in this image and there is no paint missing. In fact, there is no paint missing anywhere. I think what you might be seeing is discoloration but it is nothing like what we see on the stunts. Could it be that the heroes are a white plastic that has been painted white as well? I guess it is possible, but I really don&#39;t think so. I think the theory that the heroes are simply formed white is correct.

Until someone who has handled these can join in the discusision,all we can do is guess if they were painted or not.And they&#39;d have to have a very good knowledge of plastics and their properties to identify the material used for the helmets too.I would say that the hero&#39;s are made from &#39;natural&#39; colour plastic and painted white.Could be a number of different plastics used but my guess is that is was a standard &#39;off the shelf&#39; plastic that was readily available.The paint looks to be sticking better to the hero&#39;s so you can count out polyethylene :P

-Paul.

Paul, i would be willing to bet my house that the hero helmets were not painted.

Not only does it look like unpainted plastic, why would the hero helmets be painted, but the X-wing&#39;s/Y-wing&#39;s, Tie pilots and prototype trooper helmets be formed in unpainted plastic?

The X-wing and Y-wings i saw were made from vey nice acrylic capped plastic and i seem to remember the prototype trooper was too, but i didn&#39;t pay much atyention to the prototype.

I&#39;m not sure, but it looks like the ears on the hero might be made from a different type of plastic than the rest of the helmet.

Keith.

If you zoom right in you can actually see a mottled effect on the plastic,just like a spray can leaves.The more I look at it the more it looks painted,just 100 times better than the stunts and with a different type of paint too.I don&#39;t know which proto was up for auction,but the one on &#39;starwarshelmets&#39; with the cracked tube was definately painted.Also I don&#39;t see what X or Y wing helmets have to do with stormtrooper helmets?

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Paul, i would be willing to bet my house that the hero helmets were not painted.

Not only does it look like unpainted plastic, why would the hero helmets be painted, but the X-wing&#39;s/Y-wing&#39;s, Tie pilots and prototype trooper helmets be formed in unpainted plastic?

The X-wing and Y-wings i saw were made from vey nice acrylic capped plastic and i seem to remember the prototype trooper was too, but i didn&#39;t pay much atyention to the prototype.

I&#39;m not sure, but it looks like the ears on the hero might be made from a different type of plastic than the rest of the helmet.

Keith.
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Hi Keith,

I think you&#39;re right, the ears looks like they&#39;re made from a different material.

That hero helmet doesn&#39;t look painted and I seem to recall in that interview of M Hamill that he said his stormtrooper helmet had yellowish badly (suggesting that he might have been given a hero helmet and only white plastic would yellowish).

But I do find logical reasons as to why the hero helmets would have been painted: so that they would match the other trooper helmets (all the painted stunts).

I might be wrong but the two troopers who gets on board the MF and get shot by Han have stunt helmets but when Luke and Han reappear dressed as stomrtroopers, they both wear hero helmets etc...

But again, it doesn&#39;t look painted.

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Until someone who has handled these can join in the discusision,all we can do is guess if they were painted or not.And they&#39;d have to have a very good knowledge of plastics and their properties to identify the material used for the helmets too.I would say that the hero&#39;s are made from &#39;natural&#39; colour plastic and painted white.Could be a number of different plastics used but my guess is that is was a standard &#39;off the shelf&#39; plastic that was readily available.The paint looks to be sticking better to the hero&#39;s so you can count out polyethylene :P

-Paul.
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I have spoken to someone who has handled the hero and its NOT painted. In those pics Braks showed the hero is very white looking but in actuality the LFL Hero is much more yellowish than the LFL stunt as the plastic has aged.