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    Dec 6, 2011 - Excelsior studio model #1

    Would anyone happen to know who has the excelsior, the Enterprise B or the Lakota studio models sold at Christies auction?

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    Dec 6, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #2

    Hmmm... IDK if they'd release that information publicly, unless the person were maybe interviewed by a Trek magazine or fan site, or if they allowed said model(s) to be used in the traveling Star Trek Exhibit.
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    Dec 7, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #3

    the enterprise-b is the lakota. the model was relabeld for ds9.
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    Dec 18, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #4

    Being somewhat of a student of the location of the Enterprises, its apparently at sciencefictionarchives.com

    Enterprise-B
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    Dec 20, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #5

    simonwaters said: View Post
    the enterprise-b is the lakota. the model was relabeld for ds9.
    It's also the Excelsior. It was sold as Lakota as that was the last time the model was modified for filming before they went to CGI. I believe it's in the hands of a private collector.
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    Dec 21, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #6

    jameth1971 said: View Post
    It's also the Excelsior. It was sold as Lakota as that was the last time the model was modified for filming before they went to CGI. I believe it's in the hands of a private collector.
    The lineage of the ship is a bit convoluted. The Trek III Excelsior was in TNG for a few seasons unmodified except for the registry numbers (Hood, Repulse), then she got a new bridge and area in front of the hanger bay on the secondary hull (they got rid of the restaurant style dome there and the big impulse deflection crystal) for Trek VI. For Generations, the Enterprise B mods added to the ship were intended to be temporary so they could be pulled off afterwards, but it turned out they were attached more permanently than intended, so the ship remained that way. It got marked up as the Lakota for one DS:9 episode.

    A new Excelsior model was built for Trek productions by Greg Jein and that one was first used on the Voyager episode "Flashback". For a while, Greg was offering unlit, built copies of it for sale through the Paramount store I believe, at least until the store folded.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #7

    JMChladek said: View Post
    For Generations, the Enterprise B mods added to the ship were intended to be temporary so they could be pulled off afterwards, but it turned out they were attached more permanently than intended, so the ship remained that way. It got marked up as the Lakota for one DS:9 episode.
    That's unfortunate, as I always thought the ship looked best as the Excelsior before that "wedge" got added to its formerly very round and streamlined hull. In terms of in-universe design it was a nice addition for the Enterprise B so that we could see some foreshadowing of the progression from rounded to angular shapes that would culminate in the Enterprise D, but on its own from a purely aesthetic standpoint it's clearly grafted on and I think detracts from the beauty of the piece.

    Just my opinion though...
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #8

    Xenophon1 said: View Post
    That's unfortunate, as I always thought the ship looked best as the Excelsior before that "wedge" got added to its formerly very round and streamlined hull. In terms of in-universe design it was a nice addition for the Enterprise B so that we could see some foreshadowing of the progression from rounded to angular shapes that would culminate in the Enterprise D, but on its own from a purely aesthetic standpoint it's clearly grafted on and I think detracts from the beauty of the piece.

    Just my opinion though...
    I always thought the person who could afford to buy it could afford to have the pros change it back to the Excelsior, even with the damage removing the skirt may cause.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #9

    Personally all I wanted was:

    The Lakota-Then turned back to Excelsior

    Enterprise A

    Enterpise E

    Well, not all. Just my top 3 by far.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #10

    Ah yes, I remember it like it was 2006.

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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #11

    jameth1971 said: View Post
    Personally all I wanted was:

    The Lakota-Then turned back to Excelsior

    Enterprise A

    Enterpise E

    Well, not all. Just my top 3 by far.
    The only one I ever wanted was the Ambassador Class studio model, complete with the refit (extra shuttle bay). I even like the slightly-lowered nacelles they did to it ready for another on-screen appearance that never happened.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #12

    Karl, is there anything Trek or astronomy related that you do not know? Awesome pic.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #13

    I don't know just about everything.

    But I got some good shots of the Lakota.







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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #14

    MooCriket said: View Post
    Karl, is there anything Trek or astronomy related that you do not know? Awesome pic.
    So we got a Trek Trivia person. Well let's see how good you really are.

    No Star Trek Fan has ever gotten this.

    What is James T. Kirk's original middle initial???? It ain't T.

    No cheating. Ya know it or you don't.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #15

    Awesome pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you for sharing.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #17

    R.

    Easy.

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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #19

    Beautiful photos of the Lakota! In fact that's the best I've ever seen that refit look. You really caught the aztecing in a good light.
    I don't suppose you took any of the Ambassador model? Can't recall what names were on it when it sold.
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #20

    ALAS I could only shoot photos of the items that were displayed in the Rockefeller Center concourse. The bulk of the Star Trek items were in the Christies' showroom across the street and NO photography was allowed!

    However I do have somebody else's pictures in my files. Let me know if these are yours if you want me to take them down.












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    phase pistol said: View Post
    R.

    Easy.

    k

    Guess it was not that hard after all. No other Trek fan has gotten it that I've asked.


    Thanks again for the great pics.

    Need to do a major fix on my 4 ft Excelsior. Obviously The Lakota is a lot different but it still helps.

    Thanks again
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    Dec 22, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #22

    It was on Kirk's tombstone in the second pilot episode.

    K
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    It was on Kirk's tombstone in the second pilot episode.

    K
    Yep. I just happened to notice it and it became a fun question.
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    Dec 23, 2011 - Re: Excelsior studio model #24

    I need a smoke after all those awsome pics.
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    CMANavy said: View Post
    I need a smoke after all those awsome pics.
    Glad I'm not the only one.
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