Excelsior studio model

KLINGONSNIPER · 12-06-2011, 08:41 AM

Would anyone happen to know who has the excelsior, the Enterprise B or the Lakota studio models sold at Christies auction?

Thanks
Eric Bryan

BolianAdmiral · 12-06-2011, 02:25 PM

Hmmm... IDK if they'd release that information publicly, unless the person were maybe interviewed by a Trek magazine or fan site, or if they allowed said model(s) to be used in the traveling Star Trek Exhibit.

simonwaters · 12-07-2011, 06:02 AM

the enterprise-b is the lakota. the model was relabeld for ds9.

Search4 · 12-18-2011, 05:45 PM

Being somewhat of a student of the location of the Enterprises, its apparently at sciencefictionarchives.com

Enterprise-B

jameth1971 · 12-20-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by simonwaters

the enterprise-b is the lakota. the model was relabeld for ds9.

It's also the Excelsior. It was sold as Lakota as that was the last time the model was modified for filming before they went to CGI. I believe it's in the hands of a private collector.

JMChladek · 12-21-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jameth1971

It's also the Excelsior. It was sold as Lakota as that was the last time the model was modified for filming before they went to CGI. I believe it's in the hands of a private collector.

The lineage of the ship is a bit convoluted. The Trek III Excelsior was in TNG for a few seasons unmodified except for the registry numbers (Hood, Repulse), then she got a new bridge and area in front of the hanger bay on the secondary hull (they got rid of the restaurant style dome there and the big impulse deflection crystal) for Trek VI. For Generations, the Enterprise B mods added to the ship were intended to be temporary so they could be pulled off afterwards, but it turned out they were attached more permanently than intended, so the ship remained that way. It got marked up as the Lakota for one DS:9 episode.

A new Excelsior model was built for Trek productions by Greg Jein and that one was first used on the Voyager episode "Flashback". For a while, Greg was offering unlit, built copies of it for sale through the Paramount store I believe, at least until the store folded.

Xenophon1 · 12-22-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JMChladek

For Generations, the Enterprise B mods added to the ship were intended to be temporary so they could be pulled off afterwards, but it turned out they were attached more permanently than intended, so the ship remained that way. It got marked up as the Lakota for one DS:9 episode.

That's unfortunate, as I always thought the ship looked best as the Excelsior before that "wedge" got added to its formerly very round and streamlined hull. In terms of in-universe design it was a nice addition for the Enterprise B so that we could see some foreshadowing of the progression from rounded to angular shapes that would culminate in the Enterprise D, but on its own from a purely aesthetic standpoint it's clearly grafted on and I think detracts from the beauty of the piece.

Just my opinion though...

jameth1971 · 12-22-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Xenophon1

That's unfortunate, as I always thought the ship looked best as the Excelsior before that "wedge" got added to its formerly very round and streamlined hull. In terms of in-universe design it was a nice addition for the Enterprise B so that we could see some foreshadowing of the progression from rounded to angular shapes that would culminate in the Enterprise D, but on its own from a purely aesthetic standpoint it's clearly grafted on and I think detracts from the beauty of the piece.

Just my opinion though...

I always thought the person who could afford to buy it could afford to have the pros change it back to the Excelsior, even with the damage removing the skirt may cause.

jameth1971 · 12-22-2011, 07:07 PM

Personally all I wanted was:

The Lakota-Then turned back to Excelsior

Enterprise A

Enterpise E

Well, not all. Just my top 3 by far.

phase pistol · 12-22-2011, 07:13 PM

Ah yes, I remember it like it was 2006.

Angelus Lupus · 12-22-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jameth1971

Personally all I wanted was:

The Lakota-Then turned back to Excelsior

Enterprise A

Enterpise E

Well, not all. Just my top 3 by far.

The only one I ever wanted was the Ambassador Class studio model, complete with the refit (extra shuttle bay). I even like the slightly-lowered nacelles they did to it ready for another on-screen appearance that never happened.

MooCriket · 12-22-2011, 07:45 PM

Karl, is there anything Trek or astronomy related that you do not know? Awesome pic.

phase pistol · 12-22-2011, 08:00 PM

I don't know just about everything.

But I got some good shots of the Lakota.

jameth1971 · 12-22-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MooCriket

Karl, is there anything Trek or astronomy related that you do not know? Awesome pic.

So we got a Trek Trivia person. Well let's see how good you really are.

No Star Trek Fan has ever gotten this.

What is James T. Kirk's original middle initial???? It ain't T.

No cheating. Ya know it or you don't.

jameth1971 · 12-22-2011, 08:05 PM

Awesome pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for sharing.

phase pistol · 12-22-2011, 08:08 PM

phase pistol · 12-22-2011, 08:08 PM

R.

Easy.

k

phase pistol · 12-22-2011, 08:13 PM

Angelus Lupus · 12-22-2011, 08:29 PM

Beautiful photos of the Lakota! In fact that's the best I've ever seen that refit look. You really caught the aztecing in a good light.
I don't suppose you took any of the Ambassador model? Can't recall what names were on it when it sold.

phase pistol · 12-22-2011, 08:35 PM

ALAS I could only shoot photos of the items that were displayed in the Rockefeller Center concourse. The bulk of the Star Trek items were in the Christies' showroom across the street and NO photography was allowed!

However I do have somebody else's pictures in my files. Let me know if these are yours if you want me to take them down.

jameth1971 · 12-22-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by phase pistol

R.

Easy.

k

Guess it was not that hard after all. No other Trek fan has gotten it that I've asked.

Thanks again for the great pics.

Need to do a major fix on my 4 ft Excelsior. Obviously The Lakota is a lot different but it still helps.

Thanks again

phase pistol · 12-22-2011, 10:50 PM

It was on Kirk's tombstone in the second pilot episode.

K

jameth1971 · 12-22-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by phase pistol

It was on Kirk's tombstone in the second pilot episode.

K

Yep. I just happened to notice it and it became a fun question.

CMANavy · 12-23-2011, 03:25 AM

I need a smoke after all those awsome pics.

jameth1971 · 12-23-2011, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CMANavy

I need a smoke after all those awsome pics.

Glad I'm not the only one.

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12-06-2011, 08:41 AM	#1
KLINGONSNIPER Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 47	Excelsior studio model Would anyone happen to know who has the excelsior, the Enterprise B or the Lakota studio models sold at Christies auction? Thanks Eric Bryan Last edited by KLINGONSNIPER; 12-06-2011 at 08:51 AM.

12-06-2011, 02:25 PM	#2
BolianAdmiral Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Torrance, California Posts: 32	Re: Excelsior studio model Hmmm... IDK if they'd release that information publicly, unless the person were maybe interviewed by a Trek magazine or fan site, or if they allowed said model(s) to be used in the traveling Star Trek Exhibit.

12-07-2011, 06:02 AM	#3
simonwaters Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington Posts: 24	Re: Excelsior studio model the enterprise-b is the lakota. the model was relabeld for ds9.

12-18-2011, 05:45 PM	#4
Search4 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 70	Re: Excelsior studio model Being somewhat of a student of the location of the Enterprises, its apparently at sciencefictionarchives.com Enterprise-B

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12-22-2011, 07:07 PM	#9
jameth1971 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 1,154	Re: Excelsior studio model Personally all I wanted was: The Lakota-Then turned back to Excelsior Enterprise A Enterpise E Well, not all. Just my top 3 by far.

12-22-2011, 07:13 PM	#10
phase pistol Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 14,627	Re: Excelsior studio model Ah yes, I remember it like it was 2006.

12-22-2011, 07:45 PM	#12
MooCriket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 5,846	Re: Excelsior studio model Karl, is there anything Trek or astronomy related that you do not know? Awesome pic.

12-22-2011, 08:00 PM	#13
phase pistol Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 14,627	Re: Excelsior studio model I don't know just about everything. But I got some good shots of the Lakota.

12-22-2011, 08:05 PM	#15
jameth1971 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 1,154	Re: Excelsior studio model Awesome pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing.

12-22-2011, 08:08 PM	#16
phase pistol Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 14,627	Re: Excelsior studio model

12-22-2011, 08:08 PM	#17
phase pistol Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 14,627	Re: Excelsior studio model R. Easy. k

12-22-2011, 08:13 PM	#18
phase pistol Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 14,627	Re: Excelsior studio model

12-22-2011, 08:29 PM	#19
Angelus Lupus Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 669	Re: Excelsior studio model Beautiful photos of the Lakota! In fact that's the best I've ever seen that refit look. You really caught the aztecing in a good light. I don't suppose you took any of the Ambassador model? Can't recall what names were on it when it sold.

12-22-2011, 08:35 PM	#20
phase pistol Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 14,627	Re: Excelsior studio model ALAS I could only shoot photos of the items that were displayed in the Rockefeller Center concourse. The bulk of the Star Trek items were in the Christies' showroom across the street and NO photography was allowed! However I do have somebody else's pictures in my files. Let me know if these are yours if you want me to take them down.

12-22-2011, 10:50 PM	#22
phase pistol Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 14,627	Re: Excelsior studio model It was on Kirk's tombstone in the second pilot episode. K

12-23-2011, 03:25 AM	#24
CMANavy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 609	Re: Excelsior studio model I need a smoke after all those awsome pics.

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