Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share?

TheKingaSwing · 10-09-2011, 04:50 PM

Hey everyone,

With my Batman 89 cowl completed, I'm already itching to tackle something new. I've started converting my bat cowl sculpt to a Nite Owl II movie style cowl.

I've googled for nice images and found a few but theres almost nothing out there, especially behind the scenes photos or screen used props.

I've seen the photos of the suits on display but if anyone has screen used pieces or photos of the cowl especially, I'd be forever grateful if you'd post them or mail them to me.

Seeing as there isn't really a Nite Owl cowl out there, I'd like to make this a master piece just like the original.

Thanks all, I hope someone can help

Nat.

Mike J. · 10-09-2011, 05:04 PM

Attached.

You might also want to check out the BTS videos of the production.

-Mike J.

TheKingaSwing · 10-09-2011, 05:20 PM

Hey Mike,

thanks man, I've attached the ones I have, theyre quite huge lol and nice photos but you cant have too much ref material.

I have the bluray and there really isnt a whole lot on there and I have no way to screen grab the footage.

Nat.

Mike J. · 10-09-2011, 05:49 PM

Seems like you've got better refs than I do.

Mike J. · 10-09-2011, 06:01 PM

Sorry I couldn't be more help. Is there a specific area of the cowl you need more reference of? I can check the trailers I have - though there's probably no footage in there that isn't in the film. Let me know if you need any Photoshop work - I can help ya lighten things.

-MJ

TheKingaSwing · 10-09-2011, 07:13 PM

Thanks man, I'll get in touch if I need help

Mike J. · 10-09-2011, 08:11 PM

There are a few book tie-ins - I have "The Film Companion." Not much more in there than publicity stills and shots from the movie. The others might be a better reference.

TheKingaSwing · 10-09-2011, 08:23 PM

I'm mostly trying to see the paint job under normal lighting. Theres some bronze, copper, red, even violet looking colors in the extra features footage although who knows if that ended up on the final pieces.

Mike J. · 10-09-2011, 08:39 PM

Possible Ref Pics

Mike J. · 10-09-2011, 08:43 PM

Here they are: Photos taken at the Arclight

MoviePropCollector · 10-09-2011, 11:45 PM

You might want to try a Google search.

TheKingaSwing · 10-10-2011, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoviePropCollector

You might want to try a Google search.

I already did that, nothing but the same shots over and over again.

Sith, those display pics are real nice, I appreciate all your help with this

Mike J. · 10-10-2011, 06:04 PM

I wish I could say my Google-fu skills are that good, but I just knew about that guy's website, and I was lucky he had pics.

-Mike J.

TheKingaSwing · 10-11-2011, 06:30 AM

Haha well you if you can't find any, guess there aren't any I haven't seen.

Mike J. · 10-11-2011, 07:01 PM

I wouldn't go that far

The stills photographer for the film, Clay Enos, has a blog:

Make Pictures - The blog of Clay Enos Photography

It might be worth going thru, if you haven't, for what you might be able to get:

Nite Owl Profile

Though I suspect there are very few shots there, if any, that are not shown somewhere in the production materials, books, magazines, etc.

-MJ

TheKingaSwing · 10-12-2011, 05:25 PM

Thanks man, I'll give it a look over

terryr · 10-13-2011, 06:24 PM

Someone here made an excellent copy, but got no interest in it. Maybe he can share his references.

TheKingaSwing · 10-13-2011, 08:07 PM

I don't make things just because they have interest, I love the Nite Owl II look, I'll make it whether theres interest or not.

Chiro and one other guy (who I believe never finished it) have made the only replicas I've seen, if you're thinking of someone else, I'd love to know who they are so I can contact them

Nat.

Puzzlehead85 · 10-14-2011, 10:07 PM

Watchmen (2009), Nite Owl II paint test cowl, original / screen-used

Costume Designers Guild Local IA 892 | Feature Article

TheKingaSwing · 10-15-2011, 06:50 AM

Fantastic pics and article, thank you very much !

Nat.

Puzzlehead85 · 10-15-2011, 09:42 AM

No Problem

D48thRonin · 10-15-2011, 11:19 AM

A minor tidbit of info to clarify (if anyone cares)... the pic of the grey cowl on the left there - that's actually the master pattern.

The first stage was a clay sculpt, which was molded to produce a "hard copy" in resin (1630 if I remember correctly). This was then cleaned up and primed with catalyzed primer. Then it was sanded and polished to an automotive-grade finish. That's what you see in the pic there.

That pattern was then molded to create the final production mold, used to produce the foam latex cowls.

The entire suit was done that way - as were Ozymandias and the Comedian. Laborious and un-necessary? Yes, but the finish on the final costumes was beautiful.

Puzzlehead85 · 10-15-2011, 12:00 PM

I believe the Batsuit and Cowl from Batman Begins were done the same way as well.

TheKingaSwing · 10-15-2011, 03:10 PM

Yeah pretty much any suit made for a hollywood film is done that way. Hell even the bat cowls I made were body shopped resin masters. No other way to get that awesome look.

Thank for all the info

Nat.

terryr · 10-17-2011, 09:54 PM

I might be thinking of darthchiro.

A quick search.

http://www.therpf.com/f24/has-anyone...te-owl-128838/

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10-09-2011, 04:50 PM	#1
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Hey everyone, With my Batman 89 cowl completed, I'm already itching to tackle something new. I've started converting my bat cowl sculpt to a Nite Owl II movie style cowl. I've googled for nice images and found a few but theres almost nothing out there, especially behind the scenes photos or screen used props. I've seen the photos of the suits on display but if anyone has screen used pieces or photos of the cowl especially, I'd be forever grateful if you'd post them or mail them to me. Seeing as there isn't really a Nite Owl cowl out there, I'd like to make this a master piece just like the original. Thanks all, I hope someone can help Nat.

10-09-2011, 05:04 PM	#2
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Attached. You might also want to check out the BTS videos of the production. -Mike J. Attached Thumbnails

10-09-2011, 05:20 PM	#3
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Hey Mike, thanks man, I've attached the ones I have, theyre quite huge lol and nice photos but you cant have too much ref material. I have the bluray and there really isnt a whole lot on there and I have no way to screen grab the footage. Nat. Attached Thumbnails

10-09-2011, 05:49 PM	#4
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Seems like you've got better refs than I do.

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10-09-2011, 06:01 PM	#5
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Sorry I couldn't be more help. Is there a specific area of the cowl you need more reference of? I can check the trailers I have - though there's probably no footage in there that isn't in the film. Let me know if you need any Photoshop work - I can help ya lighten things. -MJ

10-09-2011, 07:13 PM	#6
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Thanks man, I'll get in touch if I need help

10-09-2011, 08:11 PM	#7
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? There are a few book tie-ins - I have "The Film Companion." Not much more in there than publicity stills and shots from the movie. The others might be a better reference.

10-09-2011, 08:23 PM	#8
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? I'm mostly trying to see the paint job under normal lighting. Theres some bronze, copper, red, even violet looking colors in the extra features footage although who knows if that ended up on the final pieces.

10-09-2011, 08:39 PM	#9
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Possible Ref Pics

10-09-2011, 08:43 PM	#10
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Here they are: Photos taken at the Arclight

10-09-2011, 11:45 PM	#11
MoviePropCollector Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 167	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? You might want to try a Google search.

10-10-2011, 06:04 PM	#13
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? I wish I could say my Google-fu skills are that good, but I just knew about that guy's website, and I was lucky he had pics. -Mike J.

10-11-2011, 06:30 AM	#14
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Haha well you if you can't find any, guess there aren't any I haven't seen.

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10-11-2011, 07:01 PM	#15
Mike J. I'm a pixel pusher Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 5,845	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? I wouldn't go that far The stills photographer for the film, Clay Enos, has a blog: Make Pictures - The blog of Clay Enos Photography It might be worth going thru, if you haven't, for what you might be able to get: Nite Owl Profile Though I suspect there are very few shots there, if any, that are not shown somewhere in the production materials, books, magazines, etc. -MJ Last edited by Mike J.; 10-11-2011 at 07:02 PM. Reason: Zombies.

10-12-2011, 05:25 PM	#16
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Thanks man, I'll give it a look over

10-13-2011, 06:24 PM	#17
terryr Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,583	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Someone here made an excellent copy, but got no interest in it. Maybe he can share his references.

10-13-2011, 08:07 PM	#18
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? I don't make things just because they have interest, I love the Nite Owl II look, I'll make it whether theres interest or not. Chiro and one other guy (who I believe never finished it) have made the only replicas I've seen, if you're thinking of someone else, I'd love to know who they are so I can contact them Nat.

10-14-2011, 10:07 PM	#19
Puzzlehead85 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 26	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Watchmen (2009), Nite Owl II paint test cowl, original / screen-used Costume Designers Guild Local IA 892 \| Feature Article

10-15-2011, 06:50 AM	#20
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Fantastic pics and article, thank you very much ! Nat.

10-15-2011, 09:42 AM	#21
Puzzlehead85 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 26	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? No Problem

10-15-2011, 11:19 AM	#22
D48thRonin Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 328	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? A minor tidbit of info to clarify (if anyone cares)... the pic of the grey cowl on the left there - that's actually the master pattern. The first stage was a clay sculpt, which was molded to produce a "hard copy" in resin (1630 if I remember correctly). This was then cleaned up and primed with catalyzed primer. Then it was sanded and polished to an automotive-grade finish. That's what you see in the pic there. That pattern was then molded to create the final production mold, used to produce the foam latex cowls. The entire suit was done that way - as were Ozymandias and the Comedian. Laborious and un-necessary? Yes, but the finish on the final costumes was beautiful.

10-15-2011, 12:00 PM	#23
Puzzlehead85 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 26	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? I believe the Batsuit and Cowl from Batman Begins were done the same way as well.

10-15-2011, 03:10 PM	#24
TheKingaSwing Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 85	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? Yeah pretty much any suit made for a hollywood film is done that way. Hell even the bat cowls I made were body shopped resin masters. No other way to get that awesome look. Thank for all the info Nat.

10-17-2011, 09:54 PM	#25
terryr Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,583	Re: Does anyone have BTS pics of Nite Owl II out screen used pieces to share? I might be thinking of darthchiro. A quick search. http://www.therpf.com/f24/has-anyone...te-owl-128838/