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Discussion on Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs within the Replica Movie Costumes forum, part of the COSTUMES AND COSPLAY category; Hi there, there are already several threads dealing with Nathan
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Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Hi there,
there are already several threads dealing with Nathan Drake costume parts as used in the Uncharted game series - including holsters, shirts, belts, buckles etc. Would like to open a new one in particular dealing with the wrist cuffs - hope it's not to much double posting. Since nothing official is available I started to build them from scratch. Here is the prototype for the version from Uncharted 1. Unlike part 2 and 3 there is no watch included. Would be great - e.g. if someone has better reference material or has build an own version - to get comments or ideas to further improve the concept. The intention is to be 100% screen-accurate and functional... ![]() Best |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Nice work! Same with your other Uncharted leather props. Any plans to make the Lawrence of Arabia bandoliers?
I just finished Uncharted 3 and am going back to play 1 and 2 for the first time. The plan right now is to build a Nathan Drake Uncharted 3 desert costume since it's easy and functional outside the prop world. I've been researching watches all night trying to find an acceptable watch for the cuff, and aside from a Rolex, I've narrowed down the best options in both cost and value. But I won't hijack this thread with that info, so just wanted to say good work! I'm very interested in what else you can produce. |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Hi there!
Since the cuffs from part 2 and 3 are on the list, I'm also looking for an appropriate watch. So I think any info about similar looking time pieces would be great to have! Also if some close-up reference pictures from the game are available - I am not sure wether there is a bezel etc. For me the watch have to be water resistant and robust as in-game. My current idea is a Seiko 5 model (SNZG15K1 in google picture search). I have the bandolier from part 3 more or less finished - these damned buttons are the only problem I have to solve - the metal casting is difficult. There is a picture in another thread (uncharted 3 shoulder holster #17) if you are interested. I will update there if it is ready. Also the part 3 holster... Best |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
So...
prototype wrist cuff with watch of uncharted 2/3 is ready. The leather work is not a huge challenge, more difficult is to find an appropriate watch. This one is a quarz one (more accurate than a automatic rolex ), all stainless steel and water resistant up to 300 meters - so robust enough to cope with any of Nathan's adventures. Magnification lens at 3 o'clock position as in-game.I will probably try some weathering to make it look more "used". On many pictures and screen shots there is a second wrist cuff in uncharted 2 which is much broader and with a different look. Its a while when I played uncharted 2 but I am not aware when Nathan changed his outfit. Does anyone has any information about this topic? If someone has better reference material or information to improve the design and screen accuracy please let me know!
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
I'm going to guess you're talking about shots like this one.
and no, I have no idea why it looks so huge here.
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
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The question remains why these two different cuffs in close game situations ?
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
i have the same invicta watch
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
In U1 cuff instead of two pieces of leather crossed, there was a metal jolly roger(similar to the belt buckle in U1)
Other than that, great work! (Actually I like the way yours looks better) _Atlas. |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
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the thing with a "metal jolly roger" sounds interesting! I analysed many many pictures but always recognized a cross of leather straps - maybe I was wrong. Do you have a picture available, or a link were a respective picture is available? Could help a lot to improve screen-accuracy, which is my main priority... Best |
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Might be just that most pictures I have seen from U1 are old ads from gaming magazines, maybe it was an old design? Anyways, sorry for the inconvenience, my bad. But keep up the beautiful work! _Atlas |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
No problem...
it could be the same problem as with the wrist cuff watch from UC2. I have no idea why there are two versions on divers pictures available - also in a book with the artwork, I found this broader one (see above). I replayed the whole game and only found one version - the narrow one. Seems that parts of the outfit were changed or modified during a very late step of game development... Best |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Hmmmm...
Since some members have mentioned INVICTA watches to be close to Nathan Drakes watch, I had to get one and build a new version of my wrist cuff. After replaying Among Thieves, I used a darker brown for the leather and some minor modifications with e.g. the aging. However, I am more and more convinced that in-game sometimes there seems to be something red on the clock face. This would point to an additional GMT hand. Seems that I will go for another watch soon - I know I am crazy be ![]() So it could be that one or two of my first versions will end on ebay... |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
There were some questions what kind of buckle I used for the watches. So I attached a picture of the back side - sorry for the ugly photo...
The used pattern - I tried to be as close as possible to the in-game design - allows to widen the wristlet to a certain degree. However, for making is tighter, there is a minimum size, where the ends of the leather touch each other (as seen in the photograph). Making it more tight would then result in an overlap, which would be pretty uncomfortable. So for this piece I would recommend a custom fitting... |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
I have the watch, but I am interesting this wrist cuffs from Drake's Fortune.
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Some screen caps of Uncharted 2 opening scene:
Width/position of band varies between shots, which shouldn't be possible since they're pinned down with the buttons. But it's a game, afterall. ![]() Face of the watch is far too dark for the Submariner, but I blame this (and many other renderings) on in-game limitations on details. ![]() Buttons appear black, and flat. But from other shots, they may very well be silver but just appear black. They are undoubtedly flat, however. ![]() Here's the money shot. The buckle holds the strap in, without one of those leather loops you find on belts. Note the number of holes and which hole is being used. Also note the wide band overlaps which, as Leatherworker noted, may very well be uncomfortable.
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
There is an article/interview out there with Amy Hennig (of Naughty Dog) who said that this is the reference photo used for one of the watches:
![]() (Check the hand placement- it's the same.) The choice to alter the silver tones was probably done so it wasn't as conspicuous on his wrist. The same watch rendering was used in the closing scene of U3 too. EDIT: Here is the link: Virtual Fashion: What They’re Wearing In Uncharted 2 | Kotaku Australia |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Cool, thanks. Yep, that Xanadu is a Submariner homage, meaning they meant for Nathan to have the Submariner (as he proudly displayed it on his belt when he was a kid--probably pick-pocketed it from some rich tourist). I can't justify a $5-6K watch, so the Invicta will do! The other close homage is an Orient, which may be preferable as it has a sapphire crystal, but the Invicta is growing on me.
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
So many thanks to synasp!!!!!! Great job preparing this gorgeous screen shots
I now have to change several aspects of my original design. Exchange the buckle (hard to find one), omit the leader loop, every decoration line and staining of the leather edges (hmmm...sounds like less work than before ), use flat headed rivets (hard to find quality ones).With this "overlap" I get in severe trouble - having this great information, I always tend to be screen accurate. If one would use thin leather, it may be ok. But having approximately 2 cm of leather+buckle+strap under the wrist may be a problem for every day wear - e.g. writing something on a computer, placing your arm somewhere. It will also produce a lot of pressure to the wrist at the edge = not comfortable. I will perform some tests with certain arrangements to see wether it can be realized without changing the look - it is e.g. possible to make only the critical areas thinner... |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Have some time - waiting for silicon molds to dry...
So I think its time to do some first steps to build the ULTIMATE Nathan Drake watch - with the great pictures from synasp it should be possible... The leather for the main poart is 5 mm thick. We have to tumble it for quite a while to get it super soft. We can not use a simple rectangle pattern as used in cheap versions. It has to be a bend "recangle" which produce a cone shape when wrapped around the wrist. This gives a much better "anantomical" fit. One side is gradually thinned to 2 mm, all edges bevelled. We have to do this because of the planed overlap! The straps are 2-3 mm thick. The problem with flat headed rivets is solved. I have not found anything on the market so I flattened them myself - pretty easy, after I found the trick. They are from brass with silver finish and thus rustproof. I would keep them silver and not black! With the watch housing in silver, black or titan colored rivets look pretty ugly. As seen in the image, the silver appears nearly black, depending on the direction of light. Think it is the same in-game. The most difficult part will be the buckle. I found a stainless steel one which would be perfect (20MM REPLACEMENT SWATCH BLACK LEATHER&WHITE STITCHES STRAP SS BUCKLE | eBay). But where to get one of these without the strap???
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
I wasn't even aware of the prep work that needs to go into making something like this. Very interesting and helpful!
And you're right--that buckle looks perfect! If you can't find just the buckle, I would totally just buy that strap. It's being donated to a good cause. |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Played with the coloring of the prototype. The steps are: 3x oil dye, 1x antik finish, 2x satin shene finish, polishing. The piece looks pretty stressed in-game - torn edges, marks, speckles etc. I tried to find a balance between "screen accurate" and normal "every day usage".
According to my usual procedure, I did not - yet - stain the inner leather face in contact with skin. This may not please everybody but in my eyes has some advantages. In game, the borders seem to be pretty bright. I therefore leave 1/3 of the border unstained as well. The idea with a NDI label inside came up - in analogy to Nathans holsters. It is an option, which however requires several extra steps (the leather has to be soaked with water and the stamp (this is tricky to produce) has to be applied with a mechanic press. Hmmm...Would this offend the rights of Naughty dog or sony ![]() I decide to order the buckle I found on ebay. 12 euro but I havn't find anything else which comes that close...Does anyone has suggestions or comments so far? Just realized that the picture is unsharp - sorry for that!
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Very nice! I think not staining the leather where it contacts skin is the right way to go.
The NDI label is a fantastic touch--looks great. "NDI" is trademarked/restricted by Naughty Dog, so you should be good. I always thought it stood for Nathan Drake Inc--treasure hunter for hire. Haha. I think everything is looking great and will be interested when the buckle gets incorporated. If the strap is 3mm, and the distance from post to housing is ~2.5mm, that's a tight fit but it should squeeze in and hold the watch snugly, right? I think that's actually good--I don't think Drake would've enjoyed the watch moving around. Nice work! |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
Hmmmm......
seems like the project will last a little longer! Just received a note from the guy in Thailand with the buckles from ebay: "PLEASE NOTE “ I post with Airmail Register will take 10-20 working days to arrive “" Well, at least shipping is for free. In the meantime, I will check with some watch stores nearby, wether I can find something (more close and less expensive....) |
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
I've been compulsively checking this thread... I hope 10-20 days means 5.
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Re: Uncharted - Nathan Drake's wrist cuffs
I fear 5 days have already passed...
I found another buckle - a gift from a lady in a watch shop. It was some old spare part from the past. It is strange how difficult is is to find such a piece... It looks even better than the one I ordered, it is however labelled with a brand name. I will remove this and then use the buckle as a template to cast some own ones. Unfortunately my melting pot has burned through and I am on hold with making any metal parts.So two alternatives are persued... |
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