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    Oct 7, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #26

    Damn, that looks awesome. Are you going to be selling the high res file when you're done? I imagine a lot of people will be wanting this.
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    Oct 7, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #27

    Thanks! Sometimes I lose objectivity when staring at the screen for so long, so it's great to hear I'm not just tricking myself into thinking it looks good.

    And as for selling this: I hadn't thought that far ahead. I'm far to used to getting a file to this point and losing it for all eternity. It's a possibility, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

    Thanks again, WM.

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    Oct 7, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #28

    Back ups, use back ups. its as simple and burning the files to a DVD, or e-mailing them to another computer. Or you could use one of those automatic back up systems. I suggest saving them to DVD first. But with your luck you better do all three. lol.
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    Oct 7, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #29

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    Thanks again, WM.
    No problem babe

    Lothahnus said: View Post
    Back ups, use back ups. its as simple and burning the files to a DVD, or e-mailing them to another computer.
    LIKE MINE!!!!

    Haha, seriously though, keep backing it up. It looks too awesome to lose forever at this point. Is this the 3rd time you've started it? Third time's usually a charm
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    Oct 7, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #30

    There were a few "test" patterns I made along the way. I'm calling this my third, but it's probably closer to my 10th.

    Each pattern taught me something though that allowed me to make the current one. So at least it wasn't a complete loss.

    And I was actually burning a backup DVD as I read the past few posts...I'll toss it on my flash drive and my external hard drive too for good measure!

    I MUST finish! Nothing will stop me! *Battle Cry!*

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    Oct 8, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #31

    Well, I got a little bored last night and couldn't sleep, so this happened:



    As always, it needs a few more tweaks, but it's just about there.

    Now all that's left are the arms, and I'm DONE!

    -Nick
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    Oct 8, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #32

    Triple post, FTW!

    Well, That boredom thing was still going strong these last few hours, so I decided just to pound out the rest of the costume:




    There's a little cleanup work left to do for a few minor pieces, but for all intents and purposes: THIS. IS. DONE. (5 years after I started it )

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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #33

    Awesome. Seriously awesome. I've looked at these templates over the last 5 years and still can't really figure out how they are sewn together. Is it all of the suit including the mask? Also, how big are the files?

    Congrats on getting it done. It sure looks like it was worth all the hassle. Back it up until the files are out there (if you're selling/giving them out, that is) just to be safe. You gonna make a suit now?
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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #34

    I'm more than willing to store a backup of your suit file on my Hard drive. :-P

    Great work nick
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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #35

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    I'm more than willing to store a backup of your suit file on my Hard drive. :-P

    Great work nick
    I'm sure you are. And thanks!

    The only thing I have to do before I finally figure out what I'm actually going to do with this (I don't even know if I want to make a suit) is add the edge/seam lines to the entire suit.

    I just finished adding them to the arms, the back has them already, and half of the main body piece is edged. I think I'll sleep (For once) and finish that last bit in the morning...after I toss all of my latest revisions onto my thumb drive for safe keeping.

    This has been my "Unicorn Project" for so long, it feels weird that it's almost done. Like I said, I'm still not sure what to do with this now...I feel like donating it to a museum to preserve my work for all eternity.

    WM: The only pieces I haven't shown are the palms and the thumbs...but those have no brick distortion to them so it didn't seem necessary.

    Once all my edge lines are added, I'll post a picture of the entire pattern so you can get a sense of just how minimal it all is in order to have as few seams as possible.

    And all totaled, my finished PSDs are about 500MB. In a flattened, full-sized tiff, or similar file, I could cut that down a bit.

    EDIT:

    Here are the pieces that you haven't seen yet, with their thrilling brickwork (It was a nice break to be able to just press a button and call it done):



    -Nick
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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #36

    I just have to clean up some stray bricks (you can't see them here) and I'm all finished. As promised, here is the whole thing!



    Stagelife, once I clean up the errant bricks, I'll shoot a copy off to you.

    Now I just have to figure out what to do with the pattern now that it's done. Any suggestions besides "give it to me?"

    I mean it seems a waste just to horde it on my hard drive, but I'm also tentative about selling the file since it's so easy to rip off. I mean I could try offering prints, but I'm not sure how much interest there is.

    Let me know.

    -Nick
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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #37

    I would say find a printer that will actually print it, get a sample suit done for yourself at least for all your trouble. Then if others want it they can pre order.

    would it be alot of trouble to also do a version without the webs?
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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #38

    darthchiro said: View Post
    I would say find a printer that will actually print it, get a sample suit done for yourself at least for all your trouble. Then if others want it they can pre order.

    would it be alot of trouble to also do a version without the webs?
    That's the direction I was leaning in. I figure even if I just sew it up and throw it on a mannequin, at least I have it.

    And no, that would be no trouble at all. I can just change the visibility of a few layers in Photoshop to either just leave the cut lines/edges visible or to make black web guidelines (which I'm working on now) visible. So basically I could make a suit with thin guidelines, no lines except the edges, or printed webs.

    ...I can also make the entire suit purple if I want.

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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #39

    Holy crap. It ended up looking beautiful. Great job, man.

    I reckon make one for yourself first so you can write all the prices down. Then either start an interest thread for either one size or different sized suits for people depending on their height/weight. Then ship them the printed sheets of whatever the printed material is to them. Failing that, you could always sell the file itself and have everyone else do the sizing, printing, cutting and sewing themselves. The second option would definitely be better for you because you won't have to do any dirty work and people can't blame you if they size it wrong for themselves.
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    Oct 9, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #40

    Well done! And fairly quick too.
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    Oct 10, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #41

    Thanks for all the compliments guys. It's be a lot of work crammed into an extremely small number of days, but I just wanted to finally see this project through!

    I know I said I was done, and although I technically am, I'm still working on the basic black weblines that I mentioned earlier. (For a more comic styled suit...or in case I ever put urethane webs on this thing)

    Here's a sample:



    I just have to finish the back of the head, belt, and arms...and THEN I'll be done-done, instead of just done.

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    Oct 10, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #42

    Turned out great Nick. Awesome work.
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    Dec 26, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #43

    WOW! I love the color of that suit!! Have you printed a copy of it???
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    Dec 26, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #44

    Man I had no idea that you could spherize a selected area. It makes so much sense now! Thanks so much for that tip.
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    Dec 26, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #45

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    WOW! I love the color of that suit!! Have you printed a copy of it???
    Not yet. I'm making it a goal of mine in 2011. So hopefully I'll find a printer that is willing to work with me.

    That said, I am still tweaking the colors, trying to find a nice balance between the deep orangey red and the fushia-y color that can both be seen throughout the course of all three movies.

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    Man I had no idea that you could spherize a selected area. It makes so much sense now! Thanks so much for that tip.
    Don't mention it. This was all learned through trial and error, so I'm just glad what I've figured out is useful at all.

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    Dec 27, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #46

    This absolutely a great resource for the Spider-man community...and the costuming community at large.

    I'm one of the guys involved with selling dye-sub spiderman suits (The Heroes Locker) and I'm happy that the methods are out in the open...for everyone that has dreams of playing their favorite web-slinging hero.

    Your cost is about right for the dye-sub depending on who you use it can be $180-$500. That's from $30 per yard to $120 per yard...depending on the printer and their process. Some also have "set up fees" which are valid.

    One other thing I would add, if you dont mind. When you send it to the printer...do two things:

    1) Send it in TIFF not jpg. TIFF is a large format but keeps ALL the color information

    2) Make sure that you set the saturation in Photoshop to "absolute" and that you set it to 100%. This is what tells the printer how "deep" to saturate the fabric when you print.

    There are also a few sizing tips I could add, if you're interested.

    Good luck with this!! You're doing great!
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    Dec 27, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #47

    Harmonic_Distortion said: View Post
    1) Send it in TIFF not jpg. TIFF is a large format but keeps ALL the color information

    2) Make sure that you set the saturation in Photoshop to "absolute" and that you set it to 100%. This is what tells the printer how "deep" to saturate the fabric when you print.
    Already did both, but these are good tips for anyone doing similar projects, so quoting them for emphasis can't hurt.

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    There are also a few sizing tips I could add, if you're interested.

    Good luck with this!! You're doing great!
    Tip away. Sizing is something I've been concerned about. Stretch fabrics, in general, are a bit of a mystery to me, so any help I can get would be greatly appreciated.

    ...plus I'm sure other people would find some use for the information as well.

    Thanks for the compliments and support. Those nice words feel that much better for having taken so many years to hear them.

    -Nick
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    Dec 27, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #48

    No worries. I think it's important for the community to praise hard work and talent...as well as share information.

    One tip I would give if someone has that old "Spidey Boone" pattern that's been floating around is remove the pattern outlines. When you're sewing suits for different people (or even yourself), you dont want to see those lines.

    You're thinking, ok, genius, I'm going to sew on those lines. Wrong. You're going to sew somewhere NEAR those lines. And a seamster/seamstress wont need the lines ...they'll need different widths depending on the person for the thighs, chest, and of course, waist.

    Ok. Now for the main thing about sizing. This was handed down to me from someone for free so I don't mind passing it along (unlike another famous maker who will remain nameless and wouldnt help us because we were "competition")...

    Sizing

    See the point between the eyes on the spiderman? Measure from there down to the point on the spiderbelt. That length should be 26 inches for a small suit...28 inches for a medium suit and 30-31 inches for a large suit. Most people will be large (5'10 to 6'1). You can size it up from there if you're taller (I'm 6'3" 195 lbs)...which some other people will need.

    Yeah I'm kind of giving away a trade secret, but the information should be out there.

    Other Ideas

    Once you get your spider lines, putting them into a CAD program and getting them cut into metal or plastic so that you can make a mold for urethane webs is VERY doable.

    We haven't done it yet because of money concerns, but it's not that far a jump once you have the pattern.

    Hope this helps.
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    Dec 27, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #49

    WOW! great job!!!!!

    I have a Spidey4fun which I love, I really like your brick pattern and overall muscle shading, I would be interested in a set of printed fabric, nice to have a new Spidey costume option.

    I could help for the CAD webbing, I deal with a local machinist who is cheap and top notch, it would be great offering urethane webbings to match 3 sizes S, M, L but that would mean a set of molds for each size. Just pour in uretahane in the machined groove web molds, wipe excess urethane with a squeegie and you end up with super clean webbings, no trimming of any excesss material required.

    Harmonic_Distortion

    That was very generous of you sharing valuable tips, especially for the sizing purpose

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    Dec 27, 2010 - Re: The Nick Fox Presents: Spider-Man Pattern Development (w/ Pic Heavy Tutorial) #50

    Thanks for the tips! I want to work on an Amazing Spider-Man costume.
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