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    May 26, 2012 - I need help scaling my helmet :( #751

    Im trying to make a full model of Robo's markVI. Stealths version anyways.
    http://www.therpf.com/f24/robo3687-i...pakura-128147/

    I will be making it out of cardstock, because i cant seem to find any foam

    Im 18 years old and i'm 5'4.
    Im quite short
    So how would I measure it?
    Im new to pepakura, so im not that great in finding depth and that stuff.
    Im sorry for asking, ive searched all over google, but no luck.
    Thanks in advance
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    May 26, 2012 - Re: I need help scaling my helmet :( #752

    Mimicry said: View Post
    Im trying to make a full model of Robo's markVI. Stealths version anyways.
    http://www.therpf.com/f24/robo3687-i...pakura-128147/

    I will be making it out of cardstock, because i cant seem to find any foam

    Im 18 years old and i'm 5'4.
    Im quite short
    So how would I measure it?
    Im new to pepakura, so im not that great in finding depth and that stuff.
    Im sorry for asking, ive searched all over google, but no luck.
    Thanks in advance
    HaloGoddess' "How To Scale" and More Tutorial

    Thats the best tut that I can find right now
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    May 26, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #753

    Hello folks !

    I always impressed with other friends works. I influenced by you guys' amazing works.

    2 days ago i started with my Iron man helmet project from pepakura. I'm using SharkmanVI helmet modified by Dubean33. But I have problem on eye part. At the right side of eye. I cant lower 783 at the inner eye since another triangle holds it behind 858. So, the thing is, i cannot continue from this part. I can't find the problem either. That 7-8 part makes the line gap for 1129-5 even more bigger. I seriously need some advise from you experts..

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    May 26, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #754

    Looks to me like you're missing a piece
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    May 28, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #755

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    Hey! I'm looking to build an Iron Man suit (surprise surprise) to wear at parties and Halloween, etc. I was wondering what the cheapest method was to create a full suit at a quality/durability level similar to the classic resin/fiberglass/bondo method. Being a almost broke student, I'm trying to build it for under $100, but based on my research so far it looks like that won't happen. Is foam cheaper? Are there any steps I can sacrifice in the name of my wallet, or cheaper alternatives to resin/fiberglass/bondo materials? What would be the average cost for a project like this? I'm willing to spend more time on the project if it means less of the green stuff. Oh, and tools/equipment aren't an issue.

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    P.S. I apologize in advance if this has been covered; I've spent hours on this site and the 405th's site and I couldn't find much regarding costs...
    So, I know you've gotten a lot of discussion on this already, but as a long-time cosplayer, I do have some suggestions. These guys on RPF and 405th tend to be trying to make something that will last a while. Keep in mind, I haven't done any armour building myself, but I HAVE seen the different methods in person with my own eyes at conventions.

    A possibly cheaper, though less durable, method is to use craft foam for the basic shape (it's much cheaper and lighter than the antifatigue stuff), then coat with cheese cloth using a mixture of glue and water. You can also paper mache it to seal, sand just like as if you were using bondo, then paint with spray and/or acrylics. It's much more cost effective, however, you probably won't get the sleek realistic Iron Man look, and it may only last you a few times wearing it. But white glue is cheap, paper mache only requires that you steal your neighbours' newspapers, and regular spray paint and acrylic is cheaper than the car paint most people here suggest.

    Just my 2 cents. If you want to know more about the cheaper non-fibreglass method, check out Amethyst Angel's website (for the Fibreglass Phobic) Armormaking for the Fiberglass Phobic and this famous tutorial Craft Foam Armor Tutorial
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    May 31, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #756

    Really dumb question - what happens when you print a single, continuous piece that stretches over multiple pages? Are the joins "tabbed?" What's the best way to join them back together?
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    May 31, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #757

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    Really dumb question - what happens when you print a single, continuous piece that stretches over multiple pages? Are the joins "tabbed?" What's the best way to join them back together?
    dont do it
    if you print a piece that is stretched over more pages, the printer will not print anything outside of the print borders, which will leave you with a blank spot on the edges of the pages
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    May 31, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #758

    Huh...How do you print larger pieces then?
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    May 31, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #759

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    Huh...How do you print larger pieces then?
    either you print them on bigger paper, for example a3 or in a copyshop up to a0, or thebetter alternative: split it up in smaller pieces.
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    May 31, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #760

    EyeofSauron said: View Post
    either you print them on bigger paper, for example a3 or in a copyshop up to a0, or thebetter alternative: split it up in smaller pieces.
    OK, so google tells me that I use the Zipper tool to do this - I'm assuming this creates tabs?

    Also, let me take a breath and say a huge thank you to everyone who's offering advice in this thread. This is a fantastic repository of knowlege, and speaking with someone who is hopeless building in wood, this has really opened up some serious horizons for me.

    Just to keep all my dumb noob questions archived for posterity in the same place - a couple more!

    I had problems using "krazy glue gel" and an off-brand superglue. The paper was glossy, do I need to use matt/textured paper, or is it the glue?

    Respirator - I've been looking on amazon and there are a lot around the $20 price point. Will these be sufficient when fibreglassing, or do I want to play it safe and go higher-end?
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    May 31, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #761

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    I had problems using "krazy glue gel" and an off-brand superglue. The paper was glossy, do I need to use matt/textured paper, or is it the glue?
    I don't like the Krazy glue brand glue. My best results have come from Loctite super glue. The brush in bottle type is my absolute favorite because it makes less mess while working. You can find it in the office supplies section of Walmart.

    Glossy paper is also a NO-NO. Good standard 110lb heavy cardstock is what you want.
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    Jun 1, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #762

    Can't find the zipper mode in the free version of pep, and the Kinkos I called to print larger sheets were useless, and can only go up to A3. At some point I want to take a shot at a Dalek, so I'm going to have to get the hang on printing large pieces!

    I did a test on paper of printing out single pieces that print across multiple pages. There is that gap between lines where the object hits the margin, so it will take extra work to join them back up, but at least no "information" is lost.
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    Jun 4, 2012 - Any Atomic Robo pep files out there? #763

    Hi everyone a good friend of mine who loves Atomic Robo has asked me if I know anyone with Atomic Robo pepakura files, anyone able to help with this?
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    Jun 4, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #764

    HI all,
    im new here and new to pep. just started my ironman mark III helmet. going good so far hit a couple walls on the eyes hopefully i can make it they way i want in the bondo stage. im addicted to this just cant stop was up all weekend cutting out the parts was so excited when i could start assembly. if all goes well im going to do the entire suit. so heres my progress so far please feel free to comment and let me know what i can do to do even better.
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    Jun 4, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #765

    Hey everyone,
    Is there anyone who knows how to and would be willing to create a .obj file for me fro a 3-d model. If not that is not how it is done could someone take a model and unfold it pepakura for me? I am trying to build the Glass Helmet from Skyrim.
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    Jun 5, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #766

    I was wondering, is there any way to "pre treat" the card after cutting but before assembly? Not a full 321 coat, but just something to make it a little more solid? I'm worried that my K9 build might not quite hold it's weight/shape during construction.

    I was watching Stealth's tutorials on pep assembly (great videos) and one of his pieces, an iron man shoe, looks very solid even before fibreglassing and the 321 treatment.
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    Jun 5, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #767

    If you have large, unsupported flat areas (as with K9, I imagine) I find that being inventive with some sort of bracing goes a long way. Foam core board like you'd mount a poster on makes fantastic support material. It's cheap, strong, light, rigid, cuts easily, and can be adhered with just about any glue you like. I've used it to make everything from small corner braces to full-size backing sheets on large objects.

    Alternatively, you could probably make the bulk of your K9 out of the foam board itself using the Pepakura pieces as a template.
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    Jun 5, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #768

    Thanks, Rick - great advice. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a step as the 110lb cardstock feels a little less rigid than I'd expected. I think I'll reinforce a couple of the bigger pieces with core board on the inside just to make it less of a balancing act.


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    Jun 8, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #769

    Anyone else hate bondo? Because I've worked with it before and I keep getting these "pot holes." Anyone have advise on reducing the pot holes?
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    Jun 8, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #770

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    Anyone else hate bondo? Because I've worked with it before and I keep getting these "pot holes." Anyone have advise on reducing the pot holes?
    Use something better than Bondo. Evercoat's Z-Grip is an inexpensive, HIGH quality body filler that doesn't get nearly as many bubbles as Bondo. It's also much nicer to sand.

    Another tip is to mix and get your bondo in place as quickly as possible so that it doesn't clump up. You want to stop spreading it BEFORE it starts to get gritty. I personally stop spreading the moment I notice the first stages of grit, then after a few minutes wait (usually a couple swigs of beer or whatever drink you have handy to keep hydrated) I switch to a body grating file (looks like a long skinny cheese grater) to cut down the high spots while it's still rubbery.
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    Jun 8, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #771

    Chinosan said: View Post
    Anyone else hate bondo? Because I've worked with it before and I keep getting these "pot holes." Anyone have advise on reducing the pot holes?

    Usually the holes in the Bondo are caused by air pockets getting stuck in the bondo when stirring the mixture, to reduce the air bubbles try not to stir up the Bondo and hardner, look on Youtube there are some good tutorials how to mix the Bondo, you want to layer it on top of itself to avoid taking in to much air, as for fixing the little holes that are already in the Bondo after sanding, your best bet is to get some glazing putty also called spot putty filler, dab the stuff on any pin holes or imperfections in the Bondo, let it dry and sand it off with some fine (I use 320 Grit) sandpaper, it sands like sanding drywall spackle, so its easy to clean up, you can pick it up where they sell bondo, it comes it tubes and its orange when you spread it on piece your working on
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    Jun 8, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #772

    How much of an area do you guys typically work with?
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    Jun 11, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #773

    What is the standard scaling size in pepakura for armor. I believe it is somewhere around 1.####### or something like that. I have captured a model and unfolded it in pepakura but I guess its different for every model. I am just looking for a starting point before I start printing out all these pieces over and over.
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    Jun 11, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #774

    just measure your equivalent body part, and then insert that value when manually unfolding
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    Jun 11, 2012 - Re: The PEPAKURA question thread - PLEASE READ RULES IN FIRST POST! #775

    In terms of pinholes left by Bondo / Body filler etc, Im in the process of :

    1. Glassing the pep
    2. Applying 1 Layer of body filler
    3. Sanding the filler back with a Palm Belt sander / Other sanders for smaller areas...

    4. And, Instead of reapplying layer after layer of filler, Going ahead and layering Apoxie sculpt straight of the sanded surface. The Apoxie tends to have little or no pinholes and can be applied ready for 240+ Grit paper once it has set. Basically saves allllllllllllll the effort of sanding filler after filler.

    Ill let you guys know how it goes !!! :P

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