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    Apr 14, 2012 - Upper Flaps #26

    I went to Home Depot and got a few items for the upper flaps.

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    #8x32 12" Threaded Rod
    #8x32 Machine Screw Nut
    #8x32 Nylon Lock Nut

    Pic 2
    After experimenting the distance between the hinges I decided they should be 2" apart.

    Pic 3
    I also had to drill a separate hole in the Robart door hinge. First I used a 1/16 bit to create the pilot hole then I worked my way up to a 5/32 bit.

    Pic 4
    I removed the circular ball on one side of the push rod.

    Pic 5
    This is what my upper flap system looks like. I used the Nylon Lock Nut on outside and the Machine Screw Nut on the inside. I sandwiched the push rod in between 2 screws because it allows me to adjust the location later on.
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    Apr 14, 2012 - Upper Flaps #27

    To demonstrate how the system looks like. I temporarily attached it to the back with the servos exposed. Eventually the servos will be placed inside which gives it more leverage when it pushes the hinge upwards.

    Pic 1
    This is the closed state.

    Pic 2
    Closed state different angle

    Pic 3
    Open state.

    Pic 4
    Closed state different angle

    I hope you get the idea.
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    Apr 14, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #28

    this is looking really really good dude.. Also thank you very much as i'm hoping to to the same i'm following with great interest. Tho it's not the physics of it i think i'm going to have a problem with. The thought of the servo programming is scaring the hell out of me
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    Apr 14, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #29

    No problem. As soon as I get all the hinges figured out I'll be able to go over the servo programming and parts you would need for the pololu maestro.
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    Apr 14, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #30

    Thank you. Again you are a great help
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    Apr 14, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #31

    Here's a couple of shots of the Mark VII forearm firing a single rocket.
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    Apr 15, 2012 - Servo #32

    Here's all 4 servos in action. You'll notice that the servos aren't moving at the same time. That's because the 9v I'm using is old. The pololu is powered by the usb connected to the computer.

    I still have an 1 channel left which I plan to connect lights to. Here's how the channels are broken down.

    channel 0 - on off switch
    channel 1 - servo 1 (Bottom left)
    channel 2 - servo 2 (Top left)
    channel 3 - servo 3 (Top right)
    channel 4 - servo 4 (Bottom right)
    channel 5 - empty
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    Apr 15, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #33

    that's looking great dude it's gonna be awesome when it's all together
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    Apr 15, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #34

    Here's the code which you can paste in the "Script" tab of the Pololu Maestro Control Center. This script will not work though until you set up a button or switch on your controller. The link below will teach you how to do that.

    Pololu - 7.b. Attaching Servos and Peripherals

    goto main_loop

    sub button
    0 get_position 500 less_than
    return


    sub wait_for_button_press
    wait_for_button_open_10ms
    wait_for_button_closed_10ms
    return


    sub wait_for_button_open_10ms
    get_ms
    begin

    button
    if
    drop get_ms
    else
    get_ms over minus 10 greater_than
    if drop return endif
    endif
    repeat


    sub wait_for_button_closed_10ms
    get_ms
    begin
    button
    if
    get_ms over minus 10 greater_than
    if drop return endif
    else
    drop get_ms
    endif
    repeat

    main_loop:
    begin
    2000 2000 8000 8000 frame
    8000 8000 2000 2000 frame
    repeat

    sub frame
    wait_for_button_press
    1 servo 2 servo 3 servo 4 servo
    return

    Depending how you set up your servos, all you have to change are your Minimum and Maximum point ( I explained this more in the picture below)
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    Apr 15, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #35

    thank you so much dude
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    Apr 15, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #36

    omg ..... great stuff... looking forward for more update
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    Apr 16, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #37

    awesome man...
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    Apr 22, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #38

    Sorry I forgot to add these reference pics of the lower flaps in my earlier post.
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    Apr 22, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #39

    Looks amazing!
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    Apr 22, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #40

    dfx13 said: View Post
    Sorry I forgot to add these reference pics of the lower flaps in my earlier post.
    So this is the best pic of the lower flaps:


    But ... I am not sure. I do think that there could be lower flaps but I cant really determine what shape they might have or what would be under them if they do exist.

    The only thing that has me wondering about this picture and the scene that comes after it where he is flying towards the portal is that the light from the jetpack boosters is coming from under these flaps and in the following scenes there are a few frames that look like the flaps above the jetpack boosters are in the shape of the lower flaps and a few frames that show the shape of the top flaps. I think there was a mistake in the CGI work here. I just am trying to figure out if there are indeed lower flaps and if so are there also boosters under them? That doesn't seem likely though. I might just have to wait till I see the movie before I can decide for sure.

    What are your thoughts on this?

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    This are the lights that I used in my Mark VI version. They're $6.99 each and fit's perfectly in the eye socket. All you have to do is build a casing. I've attached alligator clips to a 9v battery in the screen shot below.
    42mm 8 1210 SMD LED Lighting with Hook - Automotive LED Lights - LEDLight

    Lights for the palms are also powered by a 9v battery. I got these at DealExtreme $2.61 each. It took about 10 days to arrive. In one of the screen shot I've attached a mini slide switch next to the thumb for easy access.
    I also had a question for you about the lights you used. I also used a G4 sized disc w/ 12 5050 LEDs for my palm lights on my Halloween costume and I tried to power it with a 9v but it was noticeably brighter when I used 12v. Did you check it w/ 12v to see the difference? If so, were the ones you got also brighter running on 12v? If not, I wonder if it was the difference in the number of LEDs on the disc that caused mine to dim. From what I know about LEDs, I don't think so. I think that it is the resistors that cause the dimming since the ones on the disc are designed for 12v.
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    Apr 23, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #41

    To me, it appears that the back has both flaps for rocket thrusters AND stabilizers.

    Here it is clear that the top flaps have thrusters underneath them

    Attachment 91802

    But these top flaps from MasterLe's mark vii build are obviously the thruster flaps, however the BOTTOM flaps (should be the stabilizer flaps in the film) look alot
    Attachment 91803

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    Apr 23, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #42

    To me, it appears that the back has both flaps for rocket thrusters AND stabilizers.

    Here it is clear that the top flaps have thrusters underneath them

    Attachment 91802

    But these top flaps from MasterLe's mark vii build are obviously the thruster flaps, however the BOTTOM flaps (should be the stabilizer flaps in the film) look alot like

    Attachment 91803

    These flaps from the trailer still
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    Apr 23, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #43

    Aah! Sorry for double post! The first post was an accident pay attention to the second one please people
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    Apr 23, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #44

    I also believe that the top and bottom flaps have some sort of booster/stabilizer attached to it. I've never seen all 4 go on at once and since there's no clear shot of the underlining I'm waiting for the movie or the art of the avengers to come out before I can continue to work on it.

    darkside501st - I completely understand that since you're creating main pepakura file (which you're doing one hell of a job on) that you want to be absolutely certain before you model it.

    I haven't tried a 12v battery on the palm lights since the a new 9v was bright enough for me even though it was also rated to run at 12v. I did notice some dimming on 1 - 2 LEDS when I connected it to a used 9v battery.

    jackieisrockin - that's a nice shot of the laser, I haven't seen that before. I've been debating whether or not I want the forearm weapons to function.

    Some more bottom flaps pics attatched.
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    Apr 23, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #45

    Yes, those are some images from the scene I was talking about... you can see that the shape of the flaps is not the same as the upper flaps but the afterburner jets are shooting out from under them. I just don't see why they would have four boosters which leads me to believe that this could be a mistake in the CGI one way or another. It is not like this would be the first movie that made a mistake like this. It happens all too often but these mistakes are not usually noticeable unless you are scrutinizing the images frame by frame like we are.
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    Apr 27, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #46

    Looks like I might be altering the suit to add this missile bay. Here's a clip of it in action.

    THE AVENGERS - Another Cool Extended Iron Man TV Spot* - News - GeekTyrant
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    Apr 27, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #48

    Now that there's more and more images of the Mark VII appearing I had to make some adjustment to the suit. Since mine was based on the Kotobukiya sculpt the suit wasn't exactly final. I'm also replacing the pololu 6 channel to a 12 channel version to control the extra servos.

    Pic 1 - Originally a panel raised along the shoulder part but after seeing the missile compartment and the avengers wallpaper I made it flushed.

    Pic 2 - This is how I'm going to make the missile compartment open. I cut out a couple of hinges from some left over Sintra Plastic. This is still an idea but once the micro servos come in I can fully test it.

    I may have to make adjustment to the hinge but I'll post it when I get it right.

    Pic 4 - In the extended avengers clip the silver portion above the boosters also opens to reveal extra missiles, but since I'm using that part to connect my flap hinge to I had to leave it alone.
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    Apr 29, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #49

    I've attached the servos to the back to see if I'll run into any problems later on. I had to adjust the servo horn so that the bottom flaps stayed flat but it never got in the way or prevented the top flaps from closing. I'm thinking about adding magnets to the tips to hold them in place.

    For now I'll leave it like this until I see the movie and I'll start working on the missile compartment.

    I have a Tenergy 3300 mAh 6v running the 4 servos and a 9v powering the Pololu. I tried running the servos and the pololu on the Tenergy alone but it didn't work. The pololu needed a separate power supply.

    Tenergy battery
    http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-3300mA...5857054&sr=8-1
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    Apr 29, 2012 - Re: Iron man mark vii cardboard #50

    awesome work !! Tony Stark would be proud of you !
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