Think I'm going to mold this before Michelangelo. Any suggestions for the teeth? Were those added on later?
The teeth were slushed latex and added onto the foam latex. I just learned that recently from Bri at Apemania.
Are you going to slush this in latex?
Last edited by Jessica; May 30, 2011 at 3:18 PM.
Most likely. I'm new to this whole thing but I think slushing it would make it possible to coat everything but also give it the thinness it needs (depending on how many coats). Not sure what to do with the teeth yet..but glad to know they were put on after the fact.
Any news on this project?
looking into what to mold and cast with
good luck. can't wait to see. I'm working on Cornelius, too.
I saw!! Looks really awesome!!!!!
Did some more work
Did some more work today!
Question.. did the first movie mask have any sort of texture (minus the wrinkles)? LIke skin texture? Cant seems to find anything about that.
Looking good, although if you're aiming for ultimate accuracy, I'd make the comment that the muzzle is too broad for Cornelius. I feel it ought to be slimmer. IMHO, but seeing as I couldn't even do it as well as you've done it, I'm just an armchair critic (and Apes fan).
Yes, bottom jaws were generally no wider than the actors lips, with the upper muzzle to match.
Thinned the muzzle as suggested. Looks much better now!
Looking very good! I was glad to find your sculpt! I'm also working on two apes (gorillas) and have been collecting a lot of reference material. Like you, I started with a larger muzzle and had to sculpt it smaller... it turns out that the actual muzzles were smaller than I had imagined them to be (and just looking at the makeup with the wig it's tricky to scale it).
Like micdavis says, the jaws are not much wider than the actors lips. I also discovered an interesting thing about the jaw from the film apes... it does not extend below the bottom of the actor's chin. See these pics below, you can clearly see the actor's chin with the ape jaw sitting above it:
MOD EDIT: Link removed due to virus alert
Roddy McDowall as Cornelius from the original POTA 1968
Sal Mineo as Milo from Escape from the POTA 1971
Having said that, Galen from the TV show seems to be VERY different.
The prosthetic actually goes UNDER the chin. It's hard to tell if the jaw is actually any BIGGER or if the extension on the sides and below the jaw is just a thin layer of latex flush with the actor's lifemask... in any case it's very different from Cornelius.
Check out the link here for more great galen prosthetic references:
Planet of the Apes - the Television Series
Anyways, just something to keep in mind, as I noted that your ape jaw seems to go quite a ways below the actor's chin (as below), you may want to consider sliding the jaw up some so the bottom of the ape's jaw & actor's chin are more aligned... the downside is, of course, moving it may require some changes in the upper muzzle to sync up with it...
I hope that helps! Looking forward to see more!
Last edited by Montagar; Jun 28, 2013 at 8:35 PM.
Thank you for all the reference photos! Roddy McDowell's video was a life saver!
I noticed that about the chin. But, when the sculpt is done I am doing to push the chin up again (to a more natural position). I moved it down there so it was easy to sculpt the inner mouth. I'll have to check your sculpt out as well!
I agree about the ape jaw. You don't really realize that until you have sculpted it.
Those are way awesome reference photos!!!
Last edited by Jessica; May 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM.
I think he is finished. Now how to figure out how to do the ears
Here's a great page on creating ears for foam latex:
*********Foam latex step by step 2*********
If you want a short-cut, here's some latex ears you can order for under $8 and paint them to look like Cornelius:
And here's some great ear shot's from Dan Morgan / Tom Rubalcava's site:
Thank you very much!!
Oops, here's the link for the inexpensive latex ears, Price: $7.67 + s&h:
Theater Quality Latex Costume Accessory Big Round Freaky Ears Prosthetics Appliance
Great source for those chimp ears!!
Thinking of casting this in Dragon Skin. Would that be too soft?