Black Widow Gun Belt, Iron Man 2

CustomPropSculptorGuy

LoL...

Yea, you could be

I actually have some of the metallic mesh laying around... I'll snap some pics in a few minutes...

Zendragon

Looks like but turns out not to be. The release is not in the same position that BlackHawk puts theirs in and according to them, they didn't make it.

It's very possible that it is a custom job meant to look like a SERPA.

Either way, I have not found anything else that looks the part so SERPA it will be.

Also a note about coloring. On good authority I am told that the fabric is not black. That it does have a dark grey blue color to it. It helps to offset it from the clearly black items like the zipper, gloves, belt and boots.

CustomPropSculptorGuy

Most material, from what I've heard and learned, can't be a "true" black or a "true" red because it just films horribly and you and you can't, as a viewer differentiate anything on the suit, and you end up looking like a black blob on the screen.

Case and point my material here - I couldn't find the smoke-colored neo any where, but here is black on black...

Sorry for the quality, the charger burnt out and the battery is dead on the cam.. had to use my phone...

wiliqueen

Ah! This is the source that's been eluding me!!

Rock. On. \o/

CustomPropSculptorGuy

Also, check out www.Alibaba.com and if you can't find it there, someone from one of the vendors can put you in the right direction...

the_batdemon

I see it as a navy, but that could be lighting. the Rubies looks like it will be a bluish. http://www.buycostumes.com/Iron-Man-...uctDetail.aspx

As Darth Mule was saying. some of the ebay photos of the swatch card look like the grid was recessed from the rest, making me think snakeskin when I first saw them.

Darth Mule

Let me clear up my "why its not a mesh overlay" argument. Notice in both the swatch pic and the hi-res that the gridding is recessed. If it were an overlay, the grid would be raised. No matter how well you fuse it. That grid has to be taken away, and not added on. Besides. Fusing would add weight to the fabric, making it stiff. Does this all make sense? Not trying to be difficult, just stating what I see here based on my experience. Also, the mesh you posted a pic of looks nothing like the pattern.

You may be onto something with the open cell neoprene though. Found this in a quick search. Its for mats and gaskets, so it probably doesn't stretch, but the pattern is present. And it looks right. The way the outer fabric sticks to the cell structure seems to create the pattern. Now can we find this stretchy in about 1/16" thickness. The fabric looks to be about sweatshirt weight.



True on the black. But not so much from a filming standpoint as from a basic makeup of the color. Black is basically the presence of all color. Reds and Blues are the most commonly used to push them darker. This is why when you get a black t-shirt under a black light it turns red or blue in tone. Not sure about the "true" red... I design for the stage, so I don't have to worry about filming

I'd say Navy is a good bet on this. A blue black possibly. You can really tell there's some blue in it when you look at her hands (I know... She has hands?) where her black gloves are next to her sleeve.

CustomPropSculptorGuy

Hands?? lol

The only real difference is the thickness of the material; the stuff I have is a 2-way and the stuff in the pics is a 4 way - hence mine looking a lil rough and only stretching from one way to the other. it will also look thinner, frame wise, than a 4-way. this stuff, metallic air mesh, adds virtually no weight to the item it's on... a full 8yd block weighs less than 3 lbs... the stuff is really nice.

The pattern almost suggests an open neo or some form of a processed neoprene just from the movement. I don't know what kind, or how thick, but I'd almost put my money on it being neoprene.

And I will tell ya, red and true black are horrible to film if you dont have a great lighting tech or the right filter on your lens - it sucks.

But yea, that being said, unless we talk to someone on set, we can speculate til the cows come home... I just wanna see her in that costume LoL

mdb

I saw came back from watching movie And yeah her fabric has a very definite sheen to it as well as the grey/blue tone. A satin-matt finish that is not glossy I wonder if perhaps a cire technique was used. It may also just be an effect of lighting- when you have such small cells highlights and shadows do weird things.

The very latest photo here of the fabric swatch is so much clearer than the previous two In the first two shadows and light made it hard to tell what was recess and what was fore- it happens a lot with a photograph of 3D objects, such as the inside of a mold).

You can get many different grades and textures of mesh even in spacer fabric. I had a look around and it is generally offered on sites that sell sporting and utility type materials.

It looks like a laminated fabric anyway and on screen has a wonderful effect of being not quite metallic (the two tone effect of the two layers) and not really leather and not quite denim. I know Scarlett talked about the fabric in some interview- that it was more utilitarian than in the comics.

firefly827347

I've been searching online for the past 6 hours for this material - everything from lycra catsuits on eBay to neoprene wetsuits, and I can't find anything that comes close to the fabric.

It looks rather similar to the fabric that was used in the Fantastic Four movies for their suits, as well as the suit Rachel Nichols wore under the armour in G.I. Joe, but Google has so far failed me.

I'm tempted to find a way to contact the costume designer from the movie (Mary Zophres)...

I had a quick browse for pique fabric cause I heard it mentioned earlier (I honestly have no idea about different fabrics, I'm a bit of a newbie) but maybe this will help.

http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/ca...x?ItmID=HHH865

http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/ca...x?ItmID=HHH867

Found this as well

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/22...le_Fabric.html


Here are some pictures I found today, I hope they can help too. They're pretty high-res.

izabel

hahaha. we had an TV appearance today and I was surprised Robert already did me a BW belt altthough still have to edit a bit.

STEALTH

yeah it needs to be roughed up a bit, its too clean.

izabel

haha.it has no paint yet. just flat black. and it's a bit short. i didn't know he'll make me.

cicicross

I had the idea I wanted to try to do this costume, but looks like finding the material is going to be the first big hurdle, and as I am inexperienced in sewing and making stuff up from "scratch" still I am feeling a little overwhelmed, lol. I am glad I found you all for a resource though, I don't intend to give up yet.

DarkJerre

Excellent start here, my wife really likes the idea. I myself am working on an Iron Man suit but this a counter-part is much more kick-ass than I thought it could be ...

will be following closely.

DJ

coofunkcurly

I won the auction on one of the cards so I'll let you all know if it is of any use.

DavidS

Her gun is a Smith made Walther PPK/S in stainless.....
Odd choice

id argue that the holster IS a SERPA level 2 retention holster
sure looks like one

the_batdemon

me, too. I'm hoping not to be scratching my head on what it is, how to replicate it.

coofunkcurly

Glad you got one too. I have confidence in you cracking the code.

the_batdemon

fingers crossed... should have the card in hand this week.

Zendragon

Yep sure is a Walther PPK/S in stainless. I agree, odd choice, but Scarlet Jo is a tiny woman, so I would imagine that it had something to do with that

Holster wise, I managed to get a large pic of it. Black Hawk said that they did not make the holster and when comparing the two I would agree.



Blackhawk SERPA

Talisen

According to the art of book, the fabric is four way stretch lycra with a screened print over it (some sort of slightly raised rubber like pattern from the swatches shown)

As well, in the art of book, there's a pic of the comic styled belt (round pieces with a black widow hour glass in the center) that was decided not to be used.

the_batdemon

figures... they can't make things easy.

cayman shen

On her wrists...are those the little capsules they put on the ends of roses?

BlackWidow

What materials were used to make this?, I am doing a Black Widow costume for the upcoming SuperNova here in Perth and I really want my costume to be absolutly perfect