Hey Gang,
Has anyone found the fabric used in the Avengers movie for Black Widow’s costume? I have been doing a LOT of searching for the fabric without any luck thus far!
°Jeff
CAMPer
Hey Gang,
Has anyone found the fabric used in the Avengers movie for Black Widow’s costume? I have been doing a LOT of searching for the fabric without any luck thus far!
°Jeff
CAMPer
This has been asked in a few different threads, and pretty much the general opinion is that it was a custom made fabric so finding something exact off the shelf is going to be near impossible.
It's prob a type of Leather I mean u can always check spandex world they have a material that looks close to it
haven't found exact stuff, but i'm using a thick spandex from joanns (matte/wrong side out) and layering a good strong spandex mesh from thttp://www.nyfashioncenterfabrics.com/ over the top to get the effect. word is that her outfit doesn't breathe well, and since i plan on going to cons and the like and being COMFORTABLE, i choose spandex over a rubber. this is actually bodysuit mkII - the first i used a non-stretchy mesh (which is somewhat stretchy, due to it being a mesh, but not enough) and it tore when i tried to put it on and lost ALL that beautiful texture..... this new stuff work better.
i really wish that costume designers for movies were cosplayers themselves. it would make actors MUCH less miserable in their outfits (though they do look absolutely stunning) and make our lives easier when hunting down material and wanting to do the outfits ourselves.
THIS. ^aeryn said:
I also read an article that ScarJo shredded a few of her costumes doing stunts so I'm going to guess that the stretch factor of hers was not the best either.
I like the idea of using the wrong side of a thicker spandex, seems pretty reasonable to me. The other option is starting an interest thread here and custom-designing something that would look screen-accurate but be more comfortable, then do a run with many folks to help with the budgeting and whatnot.
It is my understanding that the fabrics for Black Widow, Capt., and Hawkeye were all custom made for this film.
Wow typos in my post above. merrr. that's what i get for trying to type quickly at work!
i am all for that, but a) it's still going to be quite expensive and b) i'm not sure who to go to for that. i have friends who managed to get repros of the 10th doctor fabric and 8th doctor waistcoat fabric, and it was still upwards of $30/yd. Not sure if there'd be enough interest to get a 50-100yd roll of this done. I'll try to get pics of my mesh/spandex layering tonight, but i won't get to work on the actual bodysuit until next week.Jaina said:
In my opinion, based on the texture, it's some sort of stretchable Denier type nylon and I read somewhere that they used some sort of nylon for the actual costume. One fabric type to look into that someone else suggested in another thread is the type of material used in motorcycle racing suits, this jacket in particular seems to be made of a similar material to BW's catsuit, it's made from 600-denier polyester and the texture looks kind of like the material used for both BW's and Hawkeye's costumes.
http://www.globalpowerracing.com/med.../pu_980499.jpg
I just found a site that carries all sorts of heavy duty type fabrics, it might be useful for trying to figure what type of material was used for BW's costume as well as for other "exotic" material costumes.
Heavy Duty Fabric and Canvas
Yeah, $30 a yard is a lot at the end of the day makes sense. I think that there would be more interest once the Blu Ray is out largely because high-res screenshots can be taken and whatnot but then again, that's after big cons like SDCC, D*C, etc.aeryn said:
Will hop back to take a look at fabric pics, am curious about your combo!
No need for the Blu-ray, there are already super hi-res shots of all the Avengers out there and I mean really hi-res where you can see the texture of the materials used for the costumes very clearly.Jaina said:
High Resolution Character Images From MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS Released
You can also do a search for Avengers wallpapers, some of the official ones are also pretty hi-res and fairly close up as well. Between them and the ones from the link you get a really good look at costume materials.
Here's a link to a good close up of Scar Jo's costume, it looks like a mesh on some sort of backing based on this image, possibly a nylon mesh, the site I linked to previously has some fabrics that might be good candidates.
http://justflick.com/wp-content/uplo..._wallpaper.jpg
For comparison, here's a hi-res image of the BW costume:
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And here's a 1mm polyester hex-mesh
1.5mm Polyester Hex Mesh - Heavy Duty Mesh Material
Could that be the outer material for the costume?
I also noticed that her belts seem to be using the same material as well, at least the one with the red hourglass buckle does.
yes, the red buckle belt is made from the same material.
From my initial research it would likely be in the neighborhood of $75-$100 yard if you want ultra accurate.
I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with as far as layering two materials to get the look! I was actually thinking the same thing! Another thing that really needs to be taken into account is the color of the materials. Is the material blue, navy blue, blue gray, black? LOL!!!aeryn said:
°Jeff
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An easy $300 for suit fabric, then. :/ Might be easier (cheaper!) to talk to Mrs. Byrne and get it from her source. yeesh.coofunkcurly said:
These high Res photos are great a great resource thanksRiceball said:
http://www.leotardworld.com/v/vspfil...922NOSG-2T.jpg closest thing shattered glass fabric -- now can anyone find that dark blue shade?
you can see the fabric here in black:
http://www.thelineup.com/images/fabr...ear_dot_sm.jpg
here in royal blue:
http://www.thelineup.com/images/fabr...l_Black_sm.jpg
i've seen the fabric in Navy as it is in this picture, but I can no longer find a supplier for this shade (if you do please post) -- also, this fabric usually comes in non-hologram format as you see in the black example above:
http://www.leotardsetc.com/118_green...ered_glass.JPG
I've seen those fabrics in the Spandex House in NYC, but they're all shiney.... I've been to every fabric store in the fabric district and didn't find anything that could be used x__x Obviously the fabric exists, somewhere.... But all of those are basically just shiney. But if you DO find it, I think it's a pretty good replacement! (I don't believe that black one is non-shiney, it's just the lighting...? But it's hard to tell from that tiny pic)nemesis said:
Hi all -
I've been researching this fabric as well and think I might have found a pretty good alternative. Rockywoods has this Stormcheck Microflex that is 2-way stretch. They don't have a swatch pic, but I searched the fabric and found a swatch pic of fabric with the same name (scroll down to it).
This could be the answer. It looks like more of a herringbone type pattern rather than a waffle/mesh, but that's not a bad compromise.
Shattered glass fabric is too shiny and too inconsistent - won't look right. Black widow has a very matte-black look to her outfit, the matte-ness partially induced by the texture of the fabric. The stormcheck fabric doesn't have quite the right texture.....
Here's my solution to the problem: spandex mesh from the ny fashion center Nylon Spandex Sheer Stretch Mesh Fabric | NY Fashion Center Fabrics and thick black spandex from joanns (matte side out). This layering solution would work for other shield outfits too, in the dark blue.
These pics show the mesh, both sides of the spandex, then the layering of the two.
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Shattered glass (non-hologram) is still shiny, but it does not have the weird holographic colors.
It photographs well and also slims the person wearing it. If you are going for accuracy it's probably not the best choice. However, it is cheap and gets duller when you dye it.
I was searching here hoping to find some1 who has created a duplicate of this costume. I'll keep looking. I just wanted to say that her outfit does look like a polyester mesh type material, but I don't think it's 2 separate materials. Looks kinda like what cheerleaders outfits are made of or Pom jackets. It's also black. I read some where that long ago bw costume was black then was blue, then they changed to black again. It looks like a matte finish but has a bit of a shine to it.
After buying 2 other fabrics and hating them, I ended up doing something similar to what Aeryn is doing but with a heavy cotton spandex-type fabric vs the Nylon (just b/c I wanted cotton at the time for something else) and it worked really well. The final look of the fabric was MUCH closer than what I expected so that made me happy.
The two lessons learned I had that I wanted to pass on are:
Both fabrics I used were stretch fabrics but in my rush to get the jumpsuit done for D*con, I didn't pay enough attention to how I cut them and I didn't line up the grain correctly. It cost me BIG TIME in the amount of stretch and the first jumpsuit didn't fit. I had to recut and remake the entire jumpsuit the night before we left for D*con which ended up costing me the opportunity to add all the detail seams.
Also, in wearing the suit at D*con, the outer textured fabric ran like panty hose in a couple of spots. Since its black on black, it wasn't the end of the world but its something to keep in mind. When I rebuild the jumpsuit, I plan on cutting it a little bigger to put less pressure on certain seams.
For anyone working on a tight budget(like me!), I really recommend what aeryn did. 99.99% of the people you meet while wearing it won't know its not 100% screen-accurate
aeryn said:
Shattered glass fabric is too shiny and too inconsistent - won't look right. Black widow has a very matte-black look to her outfit, the matte-ness partially induced by the texture of the fabric. The stormcheck fabric doesn't have quite the right texture.....
Here's my solution to the problem: spandex mesh from the ny fashion center Nylon Spandex Sheer Stretch Mesh Fabric | NY Fashion Center Fabrics and thick black spandex from joanns (matte side out). This layering solution would work for other shield outfits too, in the dark blue.
These pics show the mesh, both sides of the spandex, then the layering of the two.
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