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    Nov 8, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #26

    CMANavy said: View Post
    I do have long as heck arms, 37.5" arms to exact. The waist does come quite large and I am having mine taylored in, I used a hair clip to pull it this tight for the pics.
    Drat! I was worried they'd be bell shaped.

    ...shoulda gone a size smaller... especially since I've lost ten pounds since I ordered it.
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    Nov 8, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #27

    darthgordon said: View Post
    Drat! I was worried they'd be bell shaped.

    ...shoulda gone a size smaller... especially since I've lost ten pounds since I ordered it.
    It's better than gaining ten pounds. I see this as good overall though.
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    Nov 9, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #28

    I got mine yesterday and all I can say is WOW! So happy with this tunic. The quality is better than I expected. I cannot wait to get the pants and boots.
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    Nov 9, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #29

    looking good, any one else have some pictures to share?
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #30

    I've seen quite a few of these now, and I really do think that for the sizing, the chest at about the point of most people's xiphoid process is too tight.

    Additionally, every single Anovos tunic I've seen thus far has the insignia placed too far to the left. It just doesn't look right.

    Changing questions though for a second, how's John coming on the wraps? If he's going to be making a first season wrap next year, I may have to get in on that (provided diaper purchases decrease).

    Cheers!
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #31

    [QUOTE=Got Maul;1987972]

    So the tunic is under $300 .

    The Wrap is sold out.

    As for sizing, we're pretty good for exchanges if its necessary.


    Not busting your balls but,
    Tunic $279.95 + Shipping = Pretty close to $300.00 to me.

    "ANOVOS will not accept exchanges, returns or replacements on orders requiring choice or sizing measurement that were confirmed prior to shipment. ANOVOS places complete responsibility on consumer to measure, follow appropriate sizing chart, confirm and place the order. By purchasing the item(s), the customer understand and accepts this policy."

    Item to be exchanged must be in-stock, on-hand and available for shipment from ANOVOS.
    Due to the limited and unique nature of ANOVOS' products, it may be impossible to effect an exchange.

    Customer will pay all shipping, taxes and duties to and from ANOVOS.
    Customer is responsible for all shipping, handling, taxes and duties for the exchange. Customer will be charged the full cost of shipping and handling your exchange from ANOVOS, and it will be billed as a separate invoice.

    Note: If the customer's return is within ANOVOS's possession for 90 days, it will be considered abandoned and ANOVOS reserves the right to dispose the item(s) within the return as seen fit. As a result, no refunds of any kind will be given.

    Exchanges have a lower priority than other outstanding orders.
    ANOVOS will deal with exchanges as business permits. No exceptions

    That sounds Pretty Good.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #32

    And not to bust your balls, but obviously you are new to Trek costuming.

    Fan made runs, and there were only 2 that did them were going for over $ 300.00.

    For a Tunic of this Accuracy and quality and for it being Licensed it's cheap.

    We get it though Bro this one is just not your cup of tea
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #33

    apollo said: View Post
    And not to bust your balls, but obviously you are new to Trek costuming.

    Fan made runs, and there were only 2 that did them were going for over $ 300.00.

    For a Tunic of this Accuracy and quality and for it being Licensed it's cheap.

    We get it though Bro this one is just not your cup of tea
    Was not talking about Accuracy or Quality, In fact I like them as you may read in my previous post.

    I was talking about the sizing, And Replacement if incorrect.

    Everything I quoted is from Anovos.com

    Please if you do not know me do not conclude things about me.
    Thank You.
    I am out of this Thread.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #34

    But, I'm FAR from being new to Star Trek costuming and I'm less than impressed. For the clames and cash being charged here, I expect better.

    The insignia is an idealised insignia based partially on a sampling of 3rd season patches, and comercialy made Lincolin Enterprises patches used on 1977 Phase II uniform prototypes, and patches in the collection of Greg Jein. No actual 3rd season insignia looked precisely quite like that. It's placement on the tunic is too high, and too far to the left.

    The tunics I've seen thus far are too tight in the upper chest. That's either due to a mesurement issue, a manufacturring issue, a patterning issue, or the fact that Vic's personal prototype IS in fact too tight, but convinced Anovos that it was a good fit prior to manufacture of the full run.

    From the uniforms I seen (and this is simply based on observation of some of the particulars of both the tunics and dresses) a choice was made to go with an idealised version (hence also the lighter colors) of these uniforms based MORE on 1977 Star Trek: Phase II uniforms CBS had on hand than with actual 1969 Star Trek uniforms. That's not a replica then from ANY aired episode of STAR TREK, but a costume and for that kind of money I expect that even the people like me who know how a tos uniform should look should be impressed.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #35

    Again since you are so nervous about sizing this just does not sound like it's for you.

    Anyone who is familiar with these knows you will probably have to get a tailor to fit it to you

    Trek TOS Tunics were made to be custom fitted to the wearer that's just the nature of what it is.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #36

    Ah, but I'm not mearly talking about fit am I? I'm talking about accuracy, and these tunics fall off the mark.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #37

    Yeah I've been noticing your posts.

    It has me wondering what happened as you were very anxious when these first were announced you were their number one fan with all your posts about them.

    Have you seen one in person or are you just basing this on what you have seen on the net?

    As far as the Insignia I'm there with you on that but hey even the ones on the show varied so not really a big deal on that.

    As I just posted you know there can not be a pret a porter TOS Tunic out of the box just ain't gonna happen bro, it's just not the nature of that beast!


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    But, I'm FAR from being new to Star Trek costuming and I'm less than impressed. For the clames and cash being charged here, I expect better.

    The insignia is an idealised insignia based partially on a sampling of 3rd season patches, and comercialy made Lincolin Enterprises patches used on 1977 Phase II uniform prototypes, and patches in the collection of Greg Jein. No actual 3rd season insignia looked precisely quite like that. It's placement on the tunic is too high, and too far to the left.

    The tunics I've seen thus far are too tight in the upper chest. That's either due to a mesurement issue, a manufacturring issue, a patterning issue, or the fact that Vic's personal prototype IS in fact too tight, but convinced Anovos that it was a good fit prior to manufacture of the full run.

    The samples chosen (and this is simply based on observation of some of the particulars of both the tunics and dresses, is that a choice was made to go with an idealised version of these uniforms based MORE on 1977 Star Trek: Phase II uniforms cbs had on hand than with actual 1969 Star Trek uniforms. That's not a replica then from ANY aired episode of STAR TREK, but acostume and for that kind of money I expect that even the people like me who know how a tos uniform should look should be impressed.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #38

    How so?

    Have you examined an Anovos Tunic in person?

    John Cooley said: View Post
    Ah, but I'm not mearly talking about fit am I? I'm talking about accuracy, and these tunics fall off the mark.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #39

    What people were sold is NOT a screen accurate replica but mass produced 1977 Phase II fan uniforms patterned by John Broughton of Farragut Films who's own uniforms were made using Lincolin Enterprises' patterns from James Cawley. Not the 1960's Star Trek uniforms advertised.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #40

    ...and again have you examined a Anovos Tunic in person?


    John Cooley said: View Post
    What people were sold is NOT a screen accurate replica but mass produced 1977 Phase II fan uniforms patterned by John Broughton of Farragut Films who's own uniforms were made using Lincolin Enterprises' patterns from James Cawley. Not the 1960's Star Trek uniforms advertised.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #41

    Sadly no. I was supposed to have seen a prototype but that I guess fell through somewhere along the lines. What I have had ,is access to the same photos everybody else had, but I know most of the players involved (and those no longer involved), and some of how these first uniforms were prototyped and the sources used from conversations with people who own original pieces, and people who own original patterns, and phone conversations with Joe and on and on.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #42

    That's a pretty bold claim.

    I'd be interested in any facts you have to back it.



    John Cooley said: View Post
    What people were sold is NOT a screen accurate replica but mass produced 1977 Phase II fan uniforms patterned by John Broughton of Farragut Films who's own uniforms were made using Lincolin Enterprises' patterns from James Cawley. Not the 1960's Star Trek uniforms advertised.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #43

    p.m. sent.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #44

    Got your PM you know I've been around Trek and Trek Costuming since 1976 and the one constant is there is a lot of BS out there and a lot of the so called experts are Con Artists.

    It seems Trek just seems to bring out the worse in people but when theres money to be made it does not surprise me
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #45

    Oh come on everyone knows that John Broughton was in the loop as the prototypes were created by him along with the Big Bang Tunics, I too was expecting more BANG For the buck pardon the pun lol I see just another try at a tos tunic that has failed?
    really it is not an exact replica? some of us fans were expecting a heck of a lot more, with the placement of the insignia it just blows the whole deal, does not even look right. sorry if the truth hurts! : ( Next??
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #46

    Personally I prefer a little idealism in my replicas. I don't want to spend that much for something that perfectly replicates some the cheap or quick and dirty techniques of the original screen used item that was not intended to be kept or collected (nor seen outside of the extremely small screen and low resolution televisions of the '60s). I don't want diamond weave that will fall apart like the exact material used in the '60s. I don't want threads hanging off the braids as to be accurate to the actual screen used uniforms.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #47

    granted that weird pear shaped and over weight people should NOT Be squishing into these and expect to look like a 35 year old Shatner! lol
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #48

    darthgordon said: View Post
    Personally I prefer a little idealism in my replicas. I don't want to spend that much for something that perfectly replicates some the cheap or quick and dirty techniques of the original screen used item that was not intended to be kept or collected (nor seen outside of the extremely small screen and low resolution televisions of the '60s). I don't want diamond weave that will fall apart like the exact material used in the '60s. I don't want threads hanging off the braids as to be accurate to the actual screen used uniforms.
    good point and i am sure we all agree about the quality! of course we want better quality than a screen used item but we want accuracy! not in the quality but in the look.
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #49

    Oh I don't think we will ever see an EXACT replica, for that you need to get a Screen-used one.


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    I see just another try at a tos tunic that has failed?
    really it is not an exact replica? some of us fans were expecting a heck of a lot more, with the placement of the insignia it just blows the whole deal, does not even look right. sorry if the truth hurts! : ( Next??
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    Nov 11, 2011 - Re: ANOVOS Kirk TOS Tunic #50

    WNMHGB said: View Post
    granted that weird pear shaped and over weight people should NOT Be squishing into these and expect to look like a 35 year old Shatner! lol

    Ha! Aint that the truth?
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