Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors

STEALTH · 06-26-2011, 06:58 PM

Just wanted to share this product with everyone. Some might know and use it already. I'm not sure.

It's EpoxAmite 100 with the 101 fast Hardener for use on Pepakura parts or scratch built parts.
Whether they're Cardstock or cardboard. It soaks into it and also fiberglass mat and cloth really well and has a rigid finish once fully cured

I used this and it works great and I use it indoors
(Is also odourless.)

Thanks to VersionUP for suggesting this a long time ago and Matt aka Surreal Studios for reminding me about it again

Here's a video of me explaining it briefly with a quick tutorial on applying it.
I hope it helps out
Great Alternative To Fiberglass Polyester Resin You Can Use Indoors - EpoxAmite 101 Fast

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coofunkcurly · 06-26-2011, 07:13 PM

Thanks for sharing, Stef. I bought a trial kit of this about 3 months ago and I haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

Mostly because i didn't realize I had to buy the pumps separate. Have some on order now so I'll be trying it soon.

Ever try applying it to polyurethane resin? Have thought about using it as a backing on helmet castings to add rigidity. But not sure it would bond.

STEALTH · 06-26-2011, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coofunkcurly

Thanks for sharing, Stef. I bought a trial kit of this about 3 months ago and I haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

Mostly because i didn't realize I had to buy the pumps separate. Have some on order now so I'll be trying it soon.

Ever try applying it to polyurethane resin? Have thought about using it as a backing on helmet castings to add rigidity. But not sure it would bond.

Hey Kev,
I had a crack on a urethane part and sealed it with EpoxAmite and it looks like it fused together fine. Really nice result. Also Vice versa.

The smooth-on rep should've let you know to get the pumps.
It's pretty thick lol.

PepMaster · 06-26-2011, 07:19 PM

This looks intresting is it non-toxic? Of course gloves are still needed. But I can't use fiberglass resin or bondo anymore so this is definatly a good change for me.

STEALTH · 06-26-2011, 07:24 PM

It's fine indoors without a respirator.

Carbon Fiber Car Spoiler project.
From the Smooth-On Site:

adownunderbatma · 06-26-2011, 10:32 PM

Thanks so much for this info. Must look into this when I get to finally making my pep iron man.

Greg

surrealkiller1 · 06-26-2011, 11:34 PM

Stealth! Man you keep me going with all your help. But now my wife is singing your praises since the garage won't have that awesome resin smell anymore!

STEALTH · 06-27-2011, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surrealkiller1

Stealth! Man you keep me going with all your help. But now my wife is singing your praises since the garage won't have that awesome resin smell anymore!

Now she will only complain the about the dust. :P

anyways, it's a great product indeed. I love it!
I'm just passing on the knowledge that was passed on to me

Thanks to VersionUP and Matt (SurrealStudios)

I'm just bringing the option out to you guys if you haven't heard about it.
I don't mind doing it at all

Tigerblood · 06-27-2011, 12:30 AM

plus the one good thing about EpoxAmite is it doesn't get brittle when it puddles like polyester resin. I also saw someone using this with a paint gun, but I can't remember who it was. It also have a high compressive strength from what I've seen.

STEALTH · 06-27-2011, 02:31 PM

Yeah, I've seen some pictures on the site which shows it being sprayed on for the application.
But I'm not 100% sure as the catalyst is pretty thick.

Qui-Gonzalez · 06-27-2011, 02:40 PM

I just had to subscribe to your channel!

Tigerblood · 06-27-2011, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEALTH

Yeah, I've seen some pictures on the site which shows it being sprayed on for the application.
But I'm not 100% sure as the catalyst is pretty thick.

you can get HVLP guns with different nozzles and needles for stuff with high viscosity.

STEALTH · 06-27-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Qui-Gonzalez

I just had to subscribe to your channel!

Thanks for the support Qui!

TK1536 · 06-27-2011, 07:58 PM

Sounds cool. I've been doing large Fiberglass/Polyester Resin pulls for a few months now and welcome something I can work on indoors. Only concerns are that it's twice the cost of polyester resin and has a 6-8 hour cure time vs. 90 min.

Harmonic_Distortion · 06-28-2011, 06:10 PM

Will this damage foam if you put it on top of foam?

STEALTH · 06-28-2011, 07:21 PM

I tried a little piece. It just creates a layer of plastic on top and bonds well. Doesn't damage it. It would crack if you over flex it obviously since its plastic.
It would be good for sealing the inside where you join the seams.
Kinda defeats the purpose of having a cost effective foam suit though if you throw this product on the list of materials.

Wes R · 06-28-2011, 07:27 PM

i'm going to look into this so i can do the work on the porch without the house smelling like resin. Isn't it rather ironic that it's made here in PA yet there are no distributors in the state? Nearest to me is Michigan and Columbus ohio.

coofunkcurly · 06-28-2011, 11:58 PM

Noticed the web site says the pumps dispense the proper amount with no need for weighing. You find them to be accurate enough?

Surreal Studios · 06-29-2011, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coofunkcurly

Noticed the web site says the pumps dispense the proper amount with no need for weighing. You find them to be accurate enough?

the pumps measure out the perfect amount per pump, 1 pump of resin and then one pump of the hardener, so if you use say 3 pumps of resin then you will also need 3 pumps of hardener, makes the mixing pretty easy

STEALTH · 06-29-2011, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coofunkcurly

Noticed the web site says the pumps dispense the proper amount with no need for weighing. You find them to be accurate enough?

using the scale. It doesn't seem very accurate that each pump gives out the same amount

maybe it doesn't really matter?

Then - 1 pump with part A could be the 4 parts to the one pump of part b which is the 1 part?

I guess that's what they mean.

Underdog · 06-29-2011, 12:15 AM

I'm glad that someone is looking for something non-toxic. When I started this process a few years ago, I started out knowing nothing and ended up higher than a kite, with subsequent headaches and later ended up with Pneumonia for months from breathing in the fumes. Yeah, I should have known better..... But I was in a hurry.

Surreal Studios · 06-29-2011, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEALTH

using the scale. It doesn't seem very accurate that each pump gives out the same amount

maybe it doesn't really matter?

Then - 1 pump with part A could be the 4 parts to the one pump of part b which is the 1 part?

I guess that's what they mean.

Ya the resin pump gives out the 4 parts and the hardener pump gives out the 1 part,

Underdog · 06-29-2011, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surreal Studios

Ya the resin pump gives out the 4 parts and the hardener pump gives out the 1 part,

Brilliant. Thanks for the information and links.

STEALTH · 06-29-2011, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surreal Studios

Ya the resin pump gives out the 4 parts and the hardener pump gives out the 1 part,

you posted the same concept at the same time. lol

stormtrooperguy · 06-29-2011, 01:10 AM

I'll have to play with this stuff at some point. If it can take high heat, this might be a great way to do vacuum forming positive tools

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06-26-2011, 06:58 PM	#1
STEALTH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,556	Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Just wanted to share this product with everyone. Some might know and use it already. I'm not sure. It's EpoxAmite 100 with the 101 fast Hardener for use on Pepakura parts or scratch built parts. Whether they're Cardstock or cardboard. It soaks into it and also fiberglass mat and cloth really well and has a rigid finish once fully cured I used this and it works great and I use it indoors (Is also odourless.) Thanks to VersionUP for suggesting this a long time ago and Matt aka Surreal Studios for reminding me about it again Here's a video of me explaining it briefly with a quick tutorial on applying it. I hope it helps out Great Alternative To Fiberglass Polyester Resin You Can Use Indoors - EpoxAmite 101 Fast EpoxAmite 101 Fast EpoxAmite® 100 Laminating Epoxy Product Information \| Smooth-On See if there is a distributor near you Distributor Listing \| Last edited by STEALTH; 06-26-2011 at 07:13 PM.

06-26-2011, 07:13 PM	#2
coofunkcurly Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 670	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Thanks for sharing, Stef. I bought a trial kit of this about 3 months ago and I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Mostly because i didn't realize I had to buy the pumps separate. Have some on order now so I'll be trying it soon. Ever try applying it to polyurethane resin? Have thought about using it as a backing on helmet castings to add rigidity. But not sure it would bond.

06-26-2011, 07:19 PM	#4
PepMaster Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,129	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors This looks intresting is it non-toxic? Of course gloves are still needed. But I can't use fiberglass resin or bondo anymore so this is definatly a good change for me.

06-26-2011, 07:24 PM	#5
STEALTH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,556	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors It's fine indoors without a respirator. Carbon Fiber Car Spoiler project. From the Smooth-On Site:

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06-26-2011, 10:32 PM	#6
adownunderbatma Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 24	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Thanks so much for this info. Must look into this when I get to finally making my pep iron man. Greg

06-26-2011, 11:34 PM	#7
surrealkiller1 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 20	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Stealth! Man you keep me going with all your help. But now my wife is singing your praises since the garage won't have that awesome resin smell anymore!

06-27-2011, 12:30 AM	#9
Tigerblood Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 130	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors plus the one good thing about EpoxAmite is it doesn't get brittle when it puddles like polyester resin. I also saw someone using this with a paint gun, but I can't remember who it was. It also have a high compressive strength from what I've seen.

06-27-2011, 02:31 PM	#10
STEALTH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,556	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Yeah, I've seen some pictures on the site which shows it being sprayed on for the application. But I'm not 100% sure as the catalyst is pretty thick.

06-27-2011, 02:40 PM	#11
Qui-Gonzalez King Ding-a-Ling Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,021	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors I just had to subscribe to your channel!

06-27-2011, 07:58 PM	#14
TK1536 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 940	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Sounds cool. I've been doing large Fiberglass/Polyester Resin pulls for a few months now and welcome something I can work on indoors. Only concerns are that it's twice the cost of polyester resin and has a 6-8 hour cure time vs. 90 min.

06-28-2011, 06:10 PM	#15
Harmonic_Distortion Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 325	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Will this damage foam if you put it on top of foam?

06-28-2011, 07:21 PM	#16
STEALTH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,556	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors I tried a little piece. It just creates a layer of plastic on top and bonds well. Doesn't damage it. It would crack if you over flex it obviously since its plastic. It would be good for sealing the inside where you join the seams. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a cost effective foam suit though if you throw this product on the list of materials.

06-28-2011, 07:27 PM	#17
Wes R Formerly cobalt crimson Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: PA Posts: 5,494	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors i'm going to look into this so i can do the work on the porch without the house smelling like resin. Isn't it rather ironic that it's made here in PA yet there are no distributors in the state? Nearest to me is Michigan and Columbus ohio.

06-28-2011, 11:58 PM	#18
coofunkcurly Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 670	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors Noticed the web site says the pumps dispense the proper amount with no need for weighing. You find them to be accurate enough?

06-29-2011, 12:15 AM	#21
Underdog Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 641	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors I'm glad that someone is looking for something non-toxic. When I started this process a few years ago, I started out knowing nothing and ended up higher than a kite, with subsequent headaches and later ended up with Pneumonia for months from breathing in the fumes. Yeah, I should have known better..... But I was in a hurry.

06-29-2011, 01:10 AM	#25
stormtrooperguy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Waltham, MA Posts: 1,560	Re: Alternative To Fiberglassing Pepakura Parts That You Can Use Indoors I'll have to play with this stuff at some point. If it can take high heat, this might be a great way to do vacuum forming positive tools

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