What would be considered recasting?

I know, I used the dirty "r" word. And no, I'm not looking for a loophole to skate through to get away with what I personally consider theft. Here's why I ask--

I've got a Star Trek-based costume in the works. Something that, if all goes according to plan, will break the winning streak of a local Iron Man costumer (that I won't name because I'd rather not be banned for mentioning the "He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named" of the prop/costuming universe) at the big convention in Denver.

Justin, get to the point.

The combadge for this costume. I was digging through my old Trek toys, and found a stand for one of my 4.5" figures. It looks to be about the correct size as the screen-used pieces (if I'm incorrect, I'm sure someone will not hesitate to let me know). What I was going to do was use this stand as a starting point for a badge of my own design. Basically, I'll be taking a mold of it, but making my own modifications to that mold before I ever pour a cast with it. Is that acceptable in the community? I'll admit to being a bit paranoid because I started my run with the RPF researching the Member Ban Log, and seeing all the people that have been not only banned, but have totally lost face for their shameless recasting. I'd really rather not join that motley crew.

Thanks in advance for your insight, guys.
Mods, if this thread is in the wrong spot, I apologize, and please move it to the correct spot.

First, wrong forum indeed.
Second, there have been tons of discussions on what is and what is not recasting.
Third, don´t worry. Taking a licensed toy as a basis for your own work is not seen as recasting. And when in doubt, don´t try to sell a run of them here on the RPF or anywhere else

Michael

What about Steve Neill? He's got an original mould, i doubt he'd cast you one out of it but I've sure he'd knock something out for you the correct size.

DaddyfromNaboo said:

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First, wrong forum indeed.
Second, there have been tons of discussions on what is and what is not recasting.
Third, don´t worry. Taking a licensed toy as a basis for your own work is not seen as recasting. And when in doubt, don´t try to sell a run of them here on the RPF or anywhere else

Michael

Sorry about that. I thought it might be the wrong place, but at the time my mind was saying "Well, you're modeling the piece, in a way...." Dummy me.

I'm sure there have been lots of talks about it, with posts that would undoubtedly take me days to to read if I just searched "recasting." And without being sure if any of them would apply to my specific situation.......well, thought I'd take a gamble and just ask. That's how us n00bs learn, right?

As for selling, I'd never sell one of these anywhere. Just a personal use thing. The only way I'd even make more than one is if a group of friends and I were doing a group costume thing. Honestly, I doubt anybody from here would want to buy one of my pieces anyhow. I've seen you guys's skills.....yeah. No comparison.

Parus Major said:

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What about Steve Neill? He's got an original mould, i doubt he'd cast you one out of it but I've sure he'd knock something out for you the correct size.

I'll have to look into that. Thanks.

sneillfx.com

DmsdyMachn said:

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I'm sure there have been lots of talks about it, with posts that would undoubtedly take me days to to read if I just searched "recasting." And without being sure if any of them would apply to my specific situation.......well, thought I'd take a gamble and just ask. That's how us n00bs learn, right?
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Not the best approach, to be honest. If you know that there is information out there, and you don´t even try to read through the info but skip that step just because you feel that it´s not worth your time you have to expect people either not reply to your request or simply label you as lazy beans, probably just skipping your threads in the future as well. It´s all give and take here at the RPF. Simply firing away with questions without doing your research will just generate a "not that question again" in major parts of the membership. It´s just plain impolite to everybody else who do their research.

Noted. However, in my own defense, I wasn't lazy about it, nor did I deem it unworthy of my time. I have been reading through quite a bit of information trying to find a suitable answer. I guess what I should have said was "I know through my efforts digging through the site that there has been much discussion about it, and have yet to find anything that applies to my situation." I'm seriously not trying to be difficult, I honestly thought the best way to get the answer I needed was to ask. I'd rather spend some time working on my project, comfortable in the knowledge that I can share it here, than read every reply to each thread on all 36 pages when I search "recasting."

So, my apologies. And if this is a big deal, I ask that this thread be deleted.

Not that question again.... Tuh...

Ah, the forum favourite answer from people with thousands of posts and no decency....


"Use the search Function..."

Parus Major said:

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Ah, the forum favourite answer from people with thousands of posts and no decency....


"Use the search Function..."

eh? no decency?

surely it's 'good form' to at least put in a decent amount of research before asking a question that has, to be honest, been asked a thousand times.

what is NOT good form is to join a forum and accuse it's members of having no decency after 5 minutes of being there

Well it is there for a reason...SO YOU CAN SEARCH. And I think his question was answered about using a toy as a base.

Yes, it was answered, so no point in chiming in with a "that question again" thing. You've added nothing to the discussion other than your own perceived superiority.
He's asking about "at what point" about a specific idea, not generally so the search function isn't going to be brilliantly helpful.

In terms of how long one person has been registered on a forum, that doesn't stop them from pointing out when an indignant and superior member has fallen into being dismissive about new people asking old questions. Imagine walking into a shop and asking a beginner question and being told to use google? If you can't do it in real life you shouldn't do it on the internets.

Parus Major said:

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Imagine walking into a shop and asking a beginner question and being told to use google?

how many shops do you know that have a 'search function' built in for customers to use???????
It's there for a reason. This is a FORUM. Not a SHOP.

Parus Major said:

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...........indignant and superior member.......

I think you'll find that one of the above (with your quoted 'thousands of posts') is a well-respected former staff member here. Be careful who you upset

Parus Major said:

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If you can't do it in real life you shouldn't do it on the internets.

I'm speechless at this!

Eh hem. Did you see the Emoticon at the end of what I said? It means behave. And it was me having a laugh with Michael , NOT directed at the OP. So please get off your high horse. I didn't chime in as Michael had already answered the question.

Parus Major said:

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Ah, the forum favourite answer from people with thousands of posts and no decency....


"Use the search Function..."

.... says Mr. Few Weeks and 27 posts RPF expert

Re-read the thread question and the replies DfN gave.

I think you missed the point.

Alan Castillo said:

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.... says Mr. Few Weeks and 27 posts RPF expert

Sorry, I was to this moment totally unaware that this forum is the only forum on the internet.

Talking of re-reading, re-read mine, I was talking generally, funnily enough about the entire internet.

On re-reading "DFN", yes, he gave a good answer and top marks to him but I wasn't talking about him so you need to re-read pretty much everything before you comment and you'll find I was talking about others.
Now since it's "pick on the new guy" day I'll back out slowly using whatever door Mr Neill was chased out since before I get a long line of pals coming in.

My point stands, though, the effort to whinge about a new guy asking a question is a lot more than giving a single word or sentence answer that he was asking nicely for.

Parus Major said:

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I'll conceit defeat

That'd be 'concede'.

Yep, I'm a grammer nazi too

Loosen up bro

Nice one James. He asked the question, DFN responded, I made a comment at DFN, you overreacted, you got called out on it. Let it go.

Interesting, "careful who [I] upset"..... saying i might get banned? So bans are nothing to do with the actual rules of the forum that I clicked when I joined but about a pecking order of alpha males?

I'll have you all know I'm very calm and collected, just interested in what people have just below the surfcae to those they see as below them.

Ah, yes, emoticons, the means to be ignorant and rude but pull it back with a comedy face.
Did that work?

Parus Major said:

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Interesting, "careful who [I] upset"..... saying i might get banned?

I didn't say that at all. Please do not put words in my mouth.

Parus Major said:

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just interested in what people have just below the surfcae to those they see as below them

again, putting words in peoples mouths. Nobody ever said you were 'below' anybody else. We were just pointing out that you were lacking manners

Parus Major said:

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Ah, yes, emoticons, the means to be ignorant and rude but pull it back with a comedy face.
Did that work?

It was not ignorant and rude at all!! Maybe you should have read the entire posts?
It worked for everyone else here. Those who understand both comedy and irony.