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    Jun 10, 2011, 9:59 AM - Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #1

    So, I've finished my Portal gun, and I want to try something else. I'd like to make a large scale model as I want to try some miniature model for film. The easiest thing to do/film would be a plane or a submarine, so I'm going with a sub.

    It needs to be large so that I can include more details for filming, thus the 1/72 scale.

    Now, I've never done a model kit build before, but I never had made a prop when I started out on my Portal gun, so I'm confident that I can do this. I am wondering what I should read up on for tips on building something like this, along with what I should use to paint and detail the sub.

    This is the model I'm considering. Amazon.com: Revell 1:72 Us Gato Class Submarine: Toys & Games

    EDIT: I'd probably also be adding lighting and possibly even attempt to get the propeller to rotate slowly for the filming part.
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    Jun 10, 2011, 10:30 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #2

    its a good kit. revell also do the 1/72nd u boat crew and a few other subs.
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    Jun 10, 2011, 10:31 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #3

    It's a somewhat different skill set to acquire, but if you want a large-ish relatively inexpensive and buildable sub kit you can't go past the Gato. (There are also various bigger scale fibreglass kits for RC models, but that's a whole nother level of expense and skills).

    Are you going to shoot this in smoke, dry-for-wet?

    You will find the instructions that come with the kit have reasonable information on paint colours but if accuracy is important you will get the best information from ship modeler's forums. Find a build thread by an experienced builder, read it and just copy everything he does. For general plastic-modeling how-tos, well really they're everywhere, in every level of detailing. Just Google 'plastic modeling tutorials' and you'll end up with MOUNTAINS of info.

    It will look nice on your mantelpiece when you're done, too.
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    Jun 10, 2011, 10:31 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #4

    Ah! Simon! Snap, lol.
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    Jun 10, 2011, 10:47 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #5

    @Jedimaster - I saw the U-Boat too, which I'm also considering seeing that it's cheaper and has less parts to attach, which would be good for trying to get a good paint job on it. Amazon.com: ICMS006 1/72 U-Boat Type XXVIIB Seehund WWII Midgt Sub: Toys & Games

    @Nwerke - Yep, dry-for-wet in the fog. After I posted this thread I found this guy that did a fantastic job on weathering the model. I'll have to send him an email. The Great Canadian Model Builders Web Page!: Unter Sea Boot
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    Jun 11, 2011, 9:10 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #6

    TBH, unless you are going to do a lot of closeup 'beauty shots', weathering isn't your biggest issue. Lighting, lens, film speed and other camera variables will probably have a much bigger impact on how good your footage looks. Cameras hide an awful lot of sins, many film models are very rough when viewed up close.

    That said, a truly ****ty model usually looks ****ty, of course.
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    Jun 11, 2011, 10:19 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #7

    Check in with Steve Neil.

    You will NOT find a better source for 1.) a model sub builder and 2.) a model sub builder with film FX experience.

    http://www.therpf.com/members/steveneill/
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    Jun 11, 2011, 3:51 PM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #8

    @Nwerke - Right, I meant more detailed stuff that would show up further away, I don't know if I'd be able to do super close ups of the model anyway (although 1/72 is in the scale range used for Hollywood filming).

    @PHArchivist - Thanks! I'll be sure to check in with him. I know of two other members that worked on the Abyss and Red October, so hopefully they'd be helpful for the filming aspect (both movies used dry-for-wet). I also know another guy who worked on Red October (not from here), but I lost his contact info.
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    Jun 11, 2011, 9:59 PM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #9

    The 1/72 Gato is over 51" long, mainly based on the Post War USS Cobia Museum boat although a few things are wrong and some things are missing.
    The Flood holes on the bottom are missing being the biggest thing and the marker buoys on deck are the wrong shape (post war).

    Keep in mind no 2 boats where the same and they where altered throughout the war and afterwords.
    There are lot's of aftermarket items Although I would avoid Iron Bottom Sound, the product is inaccurate garbage and the the guy is a major A hole that likes to flame and threaten people, myself included.

    The Seehund is a small 2 man sub and not much larger than the torpedo's they carried slung on the outside so it will be a small model.

    If you can find one since they are now OOP the Revell 1/72 Type VII U-Boat is 36" long.

    Large scale subs tend to be made of fiberglass and would just be a basic hull with most of the details having to be made from scratch.
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    Jun 12, 2011, 11:23 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #10

    I did find the Type II U-Boat, still debating weather or not to go with it or the Gato.
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    Jun 12, 2011, 12:22 PM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #11

    Type II is smaller than the Type VII.
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    Jun 12, 2011, 12:27 PM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #12

    Actually, this one, which seems to be neither types. :-P Amazon.com: ICMS006 1/72 U-Boat Type XXVIIB Seehund WWII Midgt Sub: Toys & Games
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    Jun 12, 2011, 1:09 PM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #13

    That model is only 6.5" long

    Tower Hobbies usually has the specs on each model.
    I usually buy from them or Mega Hobby since they tend to have the better prices.
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    Jun 12, 2011, 1:22 PM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #14

    LOL, I was wondering why it was so cheap. I'll just go with the Gato then.
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    Jan 4, 2012, 7:34 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #15

    jeremiahjw said: View Post
    @PHArchivist - Thanks! I'll be sure to check in with him. I know of two other members that worked on the Abyss and Red October, so hopefully they'd be helpful for the filming aspect (both movies used dry-for-wet). I also know another guy who worked on Red October (not from here), but I lost his contact info.
    Did some calculations for fun, and the Red October Typhoon, in 1:72 scale, would be about nine feet long!
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    Jan 4, 2012, 11:14 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #16

    An IJN I-400 would be 5.56 feet in 1/72.

    Largest sub built in WWII had 2 pressure hulls side by side like the typhoon but had a third one on top that held 3 Aichi M6A1 Seiran airplanes that it could launch at 15 minute intervals.

    Intended use was to bomb the Panama canal so supply and war ships could not travel from the Atlantic.

    2 of the 3 built where on their way to Panama when the war ended.
    After capture and inspection they where sank off the coast of Hawaii so the Russians couldn't study them.
    Acoustic tiles on modern sub come from study of these boats.
    Much of the info on them is still classified.

    Originally the US Seawolf class was to be a boomer and have 3 pressure hulls, 2 on top and one on the bottom.
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    Oct 28, 2013, 5:54 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #17

    I've just made a chart of the 72 scale sub models that are available in styrene (with one resin kit and my own in-progress scratchbuild.)

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    The USS Nautilus was the most requested 72 scale model in Fine-Scale Modelers latest Wish List Poll. The Lindberg IJN with Kaiten is a crappy kit. The bow is all wrong and the weld seams on the port side don't match up at all with the starboard.

    - Leelan
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    Oct 28, 2013, 9:51 AM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #18

    Scott Brodeen's 31" Goff Nautilus is actually 1/96 scale.
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    Oct 29, 2013, 2:25 PM - Re: Thinking of building a 1/72 scale submarine from a model kit #19

    Through extensive research I've found that when scaled to a human figure of average height {approx. 6ft}: the B-31" Goff/Nautilus works out to be much-closer to 1/77th scale. I've since purchased & verified this with a set of {English made} Dapol 1/76 scale HO/OO C8 Platform Figures = the fit is Perfect.

    When the scale of Any model is in question or unidentified - I typically use scale figures in a sincere effort to determine the scale.

    Here's a linc to the most complimentary figure set of the B-31' Nautilus:
    http://dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=p...product_id=510

    I particularly like the officers style hats which sorta matched Nemo's & the 1st mate's hats.
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