Pegasus getting Terminator license

CessnaDriver

Read on a modeling forum...

Aerial HK
HK Tank
Endos

Wooohooo!

robn1

Cool! I guess Pegasus must be doing OK with their various Sci-Fi licenses, which is good news

JMChladek

They announced at iHobby. BTW, the Terminator kits will be 1/35 scale, making them perfect for armor dioramas. And, human rebels can be converted from 1/35 figures easily enough.

Wes R

It'd be nice to see someone making the HKs. Probably pricey but from what I've seen of their stuff it's worth it.

Nwerke

Awesome. That goes straight on the must-buy list. Will make up for the 'needs work' flying HK vinyl kit, and the heartbreaking vinyl Argonauts HK Tank. (Mine was anyway...warped to hell and back and the metal tread parts were a different width to the vinyl ones. Oh to be young and naive and never to have heard the term 'recast', again...)

ONEYE

Always great to have more Terminator collectibles come out!

Too Much Garlic

Can't wait.

ONEYE

Wait, 1:35? Isn't that tiny?

Did research...

A 6-Foot man would be modeled as 2 inches. [ (6 X 12 ) / 35) ]
A 1/35 scale model of a typical 1960's car would be roughly 7 Inches long.

That sucks! Too small for details, building, painting a colossal pain in the butt! Not for me! Minimum I could stand would be 1:18 scale.

JMChladek

Too small for details? Have you SEEN what some armor and diorama modelers have been able to pull off with stuff in this scale? The techniques are actually not hard to use at all. Mastering good wash and drybrush techniques can pay extremely big dividends in this scale.

They chose 1/35 because it is probably the most popular and common armor diorama scale. There are numerous figure sets out there for everything from soldiers and irregulars and civilians, to weapon accessories, military vehicles (tanks, helicopters, even a small number of planes) and demolished buildings. Plus, in this size if one wants civilian cars or trucks, 1/32 snap vehicles are close enough in size to be adapted without looking out of place. Plus, in this scale, parts can be used with more traditional armor models to make other SF tank based creations such as Bolos or Ogres.

ONEYE

No sir, don't like this scale. I couldn't work on the stuff, and if it was sent out for building/painting, it would probably not survive the return trip.

Robiwon

The original Horizon Hunter Killer was also 1/35 scale. Plus it's been revealed that each kit will come with five T800 Endo's!

ONEYE

Well, that's not too bad for an Aerial HK, but who wants five 2" tall T-800s? That's freakin' thumb sized!

Robiwon

I do, and probably quite a few others who have been begging for a decent model of this. I used to do 1/35 military and still do I/48 aircraft. Detail is not that difficult in this scale.

Here are two pics of a 1/48 A-10 Warthog I did last year. It's a forced perspective scene, flying high over a convoy of vehicles on the desert floor. The vehicles are all scrtched and all five will fit on my pinky fingernail. Working in small scale is possible, with effort.

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Too Much Garlic

It's bigger than 1/72 scale, which is the scale FineMolds did some of their Star Wars offerings in. Two reasons for smaller scale is.

1: size (not everyone can find room for a LARGE HT Tank and Flyer. And seeing how large they actually are in the movies... even in 35th scale they'll be reasonably sized. The old Argonauts tank kit was also 35th scale and the choice of this scale blends into already established armor modeling scales. We can't all have sixth scale stuff.

2: cost (not everyone can afford the large scale stuff, so this is an option for them + it is in an already established military model kit scale.

And you'll be surprised how sturdy these things are. You can bet they are as sturdy as resin kits, but will weigh a heck of a lot less... and won't warp as vinyl kits do. So unless whoever you send it to for painting is a complete putzh who has no clue what he's doing... you should have no worries regarding it breaking.

TazMan2000

Anything new on Terminator is welcome, however I do agree that 1/35 is rather small. Mind you I don't have a problem with space, but I know that some of you do and you would also like to keep a consistent scale.
I just need something that stands out. A 1/35 HK will fade into the rest of my showcase but a larger 1/18 or 1/16 scale will stand out in it's gleaming polished silver coating.

Perhaps Pegasus will release something in a larger scale at a later date...after all, they do have a license.

TazMan2000

Nighteyes

Sure, I'd rather have 1/24 stuff to go with my movie car kits but sticking with the same scale as most armor kits probably got this stuff made, so to speak. Maybe it was part of the license.

Plus think of all the diorama possibilities. Finally a not vinyl HK.

These are going to be styrene right?

Robiwon

Pegasus usually uses ABS instead of the typical polystyrene of the mainstream model companies.

CessnaDriver

Pegasus also offers the same kits pre-build and painted or even chromed as we have seen with the martian war machine.
So I think they like to offer scales that fit built into the
clear front packaging and chromed up HKs would sell well.

ONEYE

Is one better than the other?

JMChladek

ABS is typically what Lego bricks are made of (styrene is a component of ABS plastic). It is a sturdier plastic. The minor drawback is hotter solvent glues are needed to assemble them. But, in the end they are very sturdy.

ONEYE

Thanks JMChladek!

Nwerke

LOL. It's the BIG military scale. Your other options are 1/72, 1/76 and 1/87. I have no idea why the last two even exist, but they do.

(OK, OK, there used to be some 1/25, 1/24, 1/16 and 1/15 scale armour too. And there's been more 1/16 stuff lately, and 1/9 and 1/6. But those are 'exception' sorts of kits. If you want a Churchill in 1/72 or 1/35, you can go straight out and buy any one of several versions. Want one in 1/16? Too bad, you can't just assume there is one out there.)

Mate! Calm down!! You know the aerial HK will be about 18" long in this scale, right? And even the ground HK will occupy about a cubic foot.

Robiwon

Right, regular model tube glue wont work. You would need to use one of the liquid cements like Ambroid, Tamiya, or Testors liquid. Super glue would work also.

JMChladek

As I understand it, 1/76 and 1/87 grew out of respective train scales for the US and the UK. Sometimes they are referred to as HO or OO scale (HO being "half O"). The train track widths are the same, but for OO, the Brits scaled things a little differently and it came to 1/76 (I can't recall if UK and Europe railways are narrower than typical US based railways). Since I believe US railways are a little wider, scale the rest of the locomotive to fit a same dimension piece of track and you get a smaller number (1/87).

Of course, how it applies to military stuff, Roco Minitanks in Austria for many years was making a set of pre-built armor from WW2 up to modern day and they did everything from towed artillery pieces and jeeps on up to main battle tanks (they even did some airplanes and helicopters). Airfix in the UK seemed to be the originator of 1/76 as they did many of their tank models and figure sets in that size. Although you look at them, they don't really look all that different from 1/72. So ultimately, things got re-labeled to the 1/72 size (such as in the US when MPC was importing some of the Airfix armor and re-labeling it to conform with the more popular 1/72 aircraft scale). Stick 1/72 and 1/76 armor together and you can't really tell any difference (kind of like sticking 1/24 and 1/25 scale car models together). Even Airfix themselves started mixing stuff together in thier diorama models as you might have an RAF base diorama with a tower, two refuelling trucks, figures and a Spitfire (and all are labeled 1/72). But, I have seen exactly the same trucks labeled as 1/76 when by themselves (same with the tower).

The BDK

That is how it was explained to me when I was working in a hobby shop too, so I'm thinking you are correct sir.

Pegasus is doing what I'd do if I were in the model business and had the license to something like Terminator. Make them to a common scale, not some odd ball large size. Why? Resale ability. Make them in the common armor scale, they'll sell more. Folks will be making dioramas and instead of say 1 HK in 1:18, they'll buy 2-3 smaller ones. Same with the Endos, not as detailed but you can sell armies of them.