Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help

crackerjazz · 11-14-2011, 03:36 PM

Good idea, JMChladek - will look into that. Started the openings for the headlights. Where's my reamer - I just know it'll pop up when I don't need it.

crackerjazz · 11-16-2011, 12:19 AM

Guys, I'm thinking about the 38-inch prop if I should go for the unevenly opened windows - seemed like someone was in a hurry with the rasp, maybe it was past his shoot-off time. If I made perfect openings, then I wouldn't be happy knowing it wasn't screen-accurate. But then if someone were to look at my model, then they would say I was sloppy. I'm thinking that sometimes, though, it's the sloppiness that gives a model character and that "human touch". What to do...?

JMChladek · 11-16-2011, 01:02 AM

Well, that is always going to be a judgement call whether to build it better than the original, or do it just like the original. My own personal judgement when doing models is to try and make them a little better. No matter what we build, there is always going to be a little variation from the studio model anyway as we might not have access to exactly the same materials used for the original (or better ones are available) or there might be a lack of references to say one way or the other on how to detail something. Granted I have tried to strive for getting it as close as possible, but if I can correct something that seems a little sloppy to me, I tend to do it.

But of course, it is your model and you can always do it however you want. I'm sure it will look great in any event.

Treadwell · 11-16-2011, 09:29 AM

Your own "human touch" will be leaving its own mark anyway. Do your best.

Contec · 11-16-2011, 01:59 PM

you could always build two, one version as the studio model and one nice and pretty.

CaptainDave1701 · 11-16-2011, 07:12 PM

Just got my Christmas Balls from K-Mart so I can start mine...

crackerjazz · 11-17-2011, 06:12 AM

Thanks a lot guys, really appreciate it. It certainly helps a lot having all your inputs to weigh out the pros and cons. CaptainDave1701, that's great - looking forward to seeing your build and please post lots of pics!

This is one build I'm really enjoying myself. The only thing about it is that now, everytime I see a ball, I see a potential Cetacean sphere. It's driving me bonkers. Like these ping-pong balls, for instance. I couldn't resist but visualize them as a little model. These were throwaway ones - discarded because they don't bounce well, so I might as well put them to good use. I'm still waiting for some materials for my 38-inch, so I'll spend a little time on this little critter in the interim.

Slightly less than the official 40mm. I knew it wasn't my playing!

Ok, I admit it, it's not the size of the ball - I need practice. But we need to look harder for those really nice japanese Nitakku ones to use at the ping-pong table. For the little Cetacean, though, these will do just fine.

crackerjazz · 11-18-2011, 11:32 PM

The tube cutter's itching to do his job.

But first, the front ball. Opened up the headlights and windows.

crackerjazz · 11-19-2011, 01:53 AM

I never knew ping-pong balls had air in them. Before drilling a hole I stick a compass needle into it to make a pilot hole, and air hisses out. Couldn't read the brand but looks chinese - maybe it's just this particular make? Anyway, I had better get back to the bigger model.

hemrie · 11-19-2011, 02:57 AM

Nice start.

This brings back memories - I loved that show.

crackerjazz · 11-19-2011, 02:35 PM

Thanks, Hemrie.

I'll soon get back to the bigger one, but the smaller model draws my attention at the moment. Tried to get the passageway sizes right.

JMChladek · 11-19-2011, 06:04 PM

Hmmm, I wonder how close in scale your ping pong ball Cetacean might be to one of the Seaview or seaQuest kits out there. I know the sub wasn't too big since the center ball interiors were the set pieces. I like this little creation as it makes a nice mini project.

I'm also wondering (and this is not a knock on the model) if the thing will float and dive if you fill a channel with baking soda and stick it in a fishbowl.

crackerjazz · 12-10-2011, 09:57 PM

Thanks, JMChladek. You just gave me an idea. The little one would be nice in an aquarium

Scribed the windows and rubbed with a felt-tipped marker to show the lines clearly before I sawed them out as pencil lines easily smudge.

Captain Finney · 12-13-2011, 10:02 AM

Love that ship...Like a submerged Discovery.

crackerjazz · 12-13-2011, 10:46 PM

Thanks, Captain Finney. Working on getthing the right passageway dimensions.

It's gonna be a long ship:

I want to get the conning tower placement right.

crackerjazz · 01-01-2012, 08:59 PM

Gotta be careful in cutting the tubes - no room for second attempts as I've just got enough : )

Got the motor - the ship's propeller spins rather slowly in the series. I hope I got the correct rpm motor.

It should look good with search lights on - if I don't screw up, that is.

ArcLight · 01-02-2012, 01:03 PM

I'm new to the boards and saw this thread and had to pop in and say "Cool!"

Also, at the risk of breaking protocol, I thought I should make sure any interested parties knew that the entire MAN FROM ATLANTIS series (including the original TV movies) is available on DVD from the Warner Bros. Archive.

Looking forward to see how these builds progress. (and love the aquarium idea)

crackerjazz · 01-02-2012, 09:13 PM

Hi ArcLight, thanks and welcome to the board! I'm glad you like the thread - hope to make some progress with this build soon.

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11-14-2011, 03:36 PM	#26
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Good idea, JMChladek - will look into that. Started the openings for the headlights. Where's my reamer - I just know it'll pop up when I don't need it.

11-16-2011, 12:19 AM	#27
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Guys, I'm thinking about the 38-inch prop if I should go for the unevenly opened windows - seemed like someone was in a hurry with the rasp, maybe it was past his shoot-off time. If I made perfect openings, then I wouldn't be happy knowing it wasn't screen-accurate. But then if someone were to look at my model, then they would say I was sloppy. I'm thinking that sometimes, though, it's the sloppiness that gives a model character and that "human touch". What to do...?

11-16-2011, 01:02 AM	#28
JMChladek Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 770	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Well, that is always going to be a judgement call whether to build it better than the original, or do it just like the original. My own personal judgement when doing models is to try and make them a little better. No matter what we build, there is always going to be a little variation from the studio model anyway as we might not have access to exactly the same materials used for the original (or better ones are available) or there might be a lack of references to say one way or the other on how to detail something. Granted I have tried to strive for getting it as close as possible, but if I can correct something that seems a little sloppy to me, I tend to do it. But of course, it is your model and you can always do it however you want. I'm sure it will look great in any event.

11-16-2011, 09:29 AM	#29
Treadwell Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 15,366	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Your own "human touch" will be leaving its own mark anyway. Do your best.

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11-16-2011, 01:59 PM	#30
Contec Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,847	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help you could always build two, one version as the studio model and one nice and pretty.

11-16-2011, 07:12 PM	#31
CaptainDave1701 Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 69	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Just got my Christmas Balls from K-Mart so I can start mine...

11-17-2011, 06:12 AM	#32
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Thanks a lot guys, really appreciate it. It certainly helps a lot having all your inputs to weigh out the pros and cons. CaptainDave1701, that's great - looking forward to seeing your build and please post lots of pics! This is one build I'm really enjoying myself. The only thing about it is that now, everytime I see a ball, I see a potential Cetacean sphere. It's driving me bonkers. Like these ping-pong balls, for instance. I couldn't resist but visualize them as a little model. These were throwaway ones - discarded because they don't bounce well, so I might as well put them to good use. I'm still waiting for some materials for my 38-inch, so I'll spend a little time on this little critter in the interim. Slightly less than the official 40mm. I knew it wasn't my playing! Ok, I admit it, it's not the size of the ball - I need practice. But we need to look harder for those really nice japanese Nitakku ones to use at the ping-pong table. For the little Cetacean, though, these will do just fine. Last edited by crackerjazz; 11-17-2011 at 06:28 AM.

11-18-2011, 11:32 PM	#33
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help The tube cutter's itching to do his job. But first, the front ball. Opened up the headlights and windows.

11-19-2011, 01:53 AM	#34
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help I never knew ping-pong balls had air in them. Before drilling a hole I stick a compass needle into it to make a pilot hole, and air hisses out. Couldn't read the brand but looks chinese - maybe it's just this particular make? Anyway, I had better get back to the bigger model. Last edited by crackerjazz; 11-19-2011 at 07:04 AM.

11-19-2011, 02:57 AM	#35
hemrie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 20	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Nice start. This brings back memories - I loved that show.

11-19-2011, 02:35 PM	#36
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Thanks, Hemrie. I'll soon get back to the bigger one, but the smaller model draws my attention at the moment. Tried to get the passageway sizes right.

11-19-2011, 06:04 PM	#37
JMChladek Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 770	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Hmmm, I wonder how close in scale your ping pong ball Cetacean might be to one of the Seaview or seaQuest kits out there. I know the sub wasn't too big since the center ball interiors were the set pieces. I like this little creation as it makes a nice mini project. I'm also wondering (and this is not a knock on the model) if the thing will float and dive if you fill a channel with baking soda and stick it in a fishbowl.

12-10-2011, 09:57 PM	#38
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Thanks, JMChladek. You just gave me an idea. The little one would be nice in an aquarium Scribed the windows and rubbed with a felt-tipped marker to show the lines clearly before I sawed them out as pencil lines easily smudge.

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12-13-2011, 10:02 AM	#39
Captain Finney Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 31	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Love that ship...Like a submerged Discovery.

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crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Thanks, Captain Finney. Working on getthing the right passageway dimensions. It's gonna be a long ship: I want to get the conning tower placement right.

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crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Gotta be careful in cutting the tubes - no room for second attempts as I've just got enough : ) Got the motor - the ship's propeller spins rather slowly in the series. I hope I got the correct rpm motor. It should look good with search lights on - if I don't screw up, that is. Last edited by crackerjazz; 01-01-2012 at 09:06 PM.

01-02-2012, 01:03 PM	#42
ArcLight Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 8	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help I'm new to the boards and saw this thread and had to pop in and say "Cool!" Also, at the risk of breaking protocol, I thought I should make sure any interested parties knew that the entire MAN FROM ATLANTIS series (including the original TV movies) is available on DVD from the Warner Bros. Archive. Looking forward to see how these builds progress. (and love the aquarium idea)

01-02-2012, 09:13 PM	#43
crackerjazz Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 486	Re: Cetacean - The Man From Atlantis submarine - Help Hi ArcLight, thanks and welcome to the board! I'm glad you like the thread - hope to make some progress with this build soon.