BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar

Marko@Rockvoice · 10-28-2011, 05:23 PM

Hey everyone!

Some time ago I started researching on the full-armored Battlestar as seen in BSG "Razor".

There are a few blueprints/schematics/meshes of a full-armored battlestar/or Columbia/Pacifica itself out there - but none of them is close to match the armor patterns as seen on screen.

I was able to do some frame-by-frame analysis of the short sequence of the apperance and destruction of Columbia.

I have made blueprints/schematics of the full-armored battlestar which should be quite correct.

Who is able to flaten out the armor plates?
There's a lot of curved areas and I have no clue how to extract the exact flat shape of the plates from the blueprints I made...

HELP PLEASE!

Destructor1701 · 10-28-2011, 05:55 PM

Wow, I never spotted that they were actually fully armoured! That's awesome! I heard talk of it, but I never really believed it.

The only constructive thing I can think of is to consult people who make up decal sheets, to see what techniques they use in flat-ifying ships.

The other option is just to play it by eye. Butt up a sheet of styrene, or maybe tracing paper, to a flat-edge area of the armour, bend it to shape, and trace the border with the existing armour, deriving your pattern from that and then eyeballing the screencaps for accuracy.

Unless Drexler or someone releases orthographic renders of the Columbia (or maybe the Blood and Chrome Galactica), that's probably the only way to get good reference.

Best of luck!

astroboy · 10-28-2011, 09:53 PM

bruce-domain will have lots of stuff

Mechamaniac · 10-29-2011, 06:32 PM

BRUCE'S DOMAIN: New Battlestar Armour Designs - The Athena, Columbia and Pacifica

Marko@Rockvoice · 10-30-2011, 02:57 AM

Yeah - I know. Thanks,

but none of the designs (Athena, Columbia and Pacifica) matches the armor pattern of the battlestars seen in Razor.
That's why these are of no use for me.

BTW: Who is Drexler?

division 6 · 10-30-2011, 05:42 AM

Doug Dexler

Marko@Rockvoice · 10-30-2011, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by division 6

Doug Dexler

oh, cool! Yeah, I've heard of him.

Anyone got a personal contact to him?

Destructor1701 · 10-31-2011, 09:56 PM

The link you just quoted is his blog. You can contact him there. He's just coming out of Blood And Chrome work, so he should be getting receptive.

Marko@Rockvoice · 11-01-2011, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destructor1701

The link you just quoted is his blog. You can contact him there. He's just coming out of Blood And Chrome work, so he should be getting receptive.

That would be great but... I've been looking for a contact-page or link on his blog. No idea where that would be...

Destructor1701 · 11-02-2011, 08:20 AM

Sorry, didn't mean to come across condescending or anything.

When he's active on the blog, which he should be soon, he's very good about responding to comments. Not sure what else I can offer, though.

SmilingOtter · 11-02-2011, 08:51 PM

He's also a member here:
http://www.therpf.com/members/drexler/
but his blog is probably a more reliable way of contacting him.

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10-28-2011, 05:23 PM	#1
Marko@Rockvoice Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 83	BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar Hey everyone! Some time ago I started researching on the full-armored Battlestar as seen in BSG "Razor". There are a few blueprints/schematics/meshes of a full-armored battlestar/or Columbia/Pacifica itself out there - but none of them is close to match the armor patterns as seen on screen. I was able to do some frame-by-frame analysis of the short sequence of the apperance and destruction of Columbia. I have made blueprints/schematics of the full-armored battlestar which should be quite correct. Who is able to flaten out the armor plates? There's a lot of curved areas and I have no clue how to extract the exact flat shape of the plates from the blueprints I made... HELP PLEASE!

10-28-2011, 05:55 PM	#2
Destructor1701 Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 31	Re: BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar Wow, I never spotted that they were actually fully armoured! That's awesome! I heard talk of it, but I never really believed it. The only constructive thing I can think of is to consult people who make up decal sheets, to see what techniques they use in flat-ifying ships. The other option is just to play it by eye. Butt up a sheet of styrene, or maybe tracing paper, to a flat-edge area of the armour, bend it to shape, and trace the border with the existing armour, deriving your pattern from that and then eyeballing the screencaps for accuracy. Unless Drexler or someone releases orthographic renders of the Columbia (or maybe the Blood and Chrome Galactica), that's probably the only way to get good reference. Best of luck! Last edited by Destructor1701; 10-28-2011 at 06:47 PM. Reason: New ideas.

10-28-2011, 09:53 PM	#3
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10-30-2011, 02:57 AM	#5
Marko@Rockvoice Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 83	Re: BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar Yeah - I know. Thanks, but none of the designs (Athena, Columbia and Pacifica) matches the armor pattern of the battlestars seen in Razor. That's why these are of no use for me. BTW: Who is Drexler?

10-30-2011, 05:42 AM	#6
division 6 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Central Ca Posts: 3,046	Re: BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar Doug Dexler

10-31-2011, 09:56 PM	#8
Destructor1701 Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 31	Re: BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar The link you just quoted is his blog. You can contact him there. He's just coming out of Blood And Chrome work, so he should be getting receptive.

11-02-2011, 08:20 AM	#10
Destructor1701 Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 31	Re: BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar Sorry, didn't mean to come across condescending or anything. When he's active on the blog, which he should be soon, he's very good about responding to comments. Not sure what else I can offer, though.

11-02-2011, 08:51 PM	#11
SmilingOtter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,079	Re: BSG - Converting Moebius Galactica into Columbia-style battlestar He's also a member here: http://www.therpf.com/members/drexler/ but his blog is probably a more reliable way of contacting him.

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