Thanks, Guy!
No problem Jason, hope they can help in some way?moffeaton said:
I do have to say though I only had 30 mins to sneak out of the show in Sydney & run down to the exhibition. The photos where more about the actual colour of the prop than detail as you know painting this thing is a challenge & a half. I wanted to try & capture the colour you see under studio lighting with the naked eye & without any flash, some of the shots are with no flash & all different exposures to capture the closest look that we see with our eyes.
Still bloody difficult with no tripod & limited time but I know what to do next time when I paint it again & which shot is the best example of the true colour of the PD.
This said its still all pointless as what we see is all effected by the choice of lighting as its displayed & as you look at it it doesn't really show any sign of the brown even up close, its a bit of a paint crime scene & does take some forensic's to work it out with out seeing it in the flesh
I did have another 100 shots of this & the sand crawler from my return the next day, but they mysteriously vanished from my laptop after (cough Cough) my girlfriend spent a day doing work on it. It was only a few months later I realised I'd lost over 500 shots taken at the exhibition
I think I also found a red/orange marking that I hadn't noticed before on other ref or on private builds, so well worth the hassle getting there, I think the staff thought I was some serious weirdo, Panting out of breath whilst taking pics of star wars model's
Julien, you mean lay the parts and new styrene chips over naked? Yeah sure, i can do that, would be nice as it goes, as at least you guys can see what ive had to do i guess.
Just sanding in Bondo right now on the lower head, where the caster ran his seam....its NASTY lol, but slowly getting there.
I think if you scratch this itll be pretty special, along with Moe's, this was just a better option for me, not having all the vac former access etc etc, luckily, as i said, i pretty had all the kits anyway, so at least its not hitting my pocket too bad.
Yup, you should attack this sometime.
lee
Guy, i think the brown, shows up, as it was possibly a wash or mist coat applied, very lightly?Guy Cowen said:
No problem Jason, hope they can help in some way?
I do have to say though I only had 30 mins to sneak out of the show in Sydney & run down to the exhibition. The photos where more about the actual colour of the prop than detail as you know painting this thing is a challenge & a half. I wanted to try & capture the colour you see under studio lighting with the naked eye & without any flash, some of the shots are with no flash & all different exposures to capture the closest look that we see with our eyes.
Still bloody difficult with no tripod & limited time but I know what to do next time when I paint it again & which shot is the best example of the true colour of the PD.
This said its still all pointless as what we see is all effected by the choice of lighting as its displayed & as you look at it it doesn't really show any sign of the brown even up close, its a bit of a paint crime scene & does take some forensic's to work it out with out seeing it in the flesh
I did have another 100 shots of this & the sand crawler from my return the next day, but they mysteriously vanished from my laptop after (cough Cough) my girlfriend spent a day doing work on it. It was only a few months later I realised I'd lost over 500 shots taken at the exhibition
I think I also found a red/orange marking that I hadn't noticed before on other ref or on private builds, so well worth the hassle getting there, I think the staff thought I was some serious weirdo, Panting out of breath whilst taking pics of star wars model's
How i see the droid in the Chronicles, is the look im chasing, pretty much as first built?
May be adding a dust of snow to this one though, as it was filmed.
lee
That was Guy but Im too interested in seeing this unpainted and painted !ralphee said:
My oven is too small for the head I guess (dont know really the size of the head) so it's not in my plans to make one right, but I want one for sure someday !
Right now I'm just enjoying the thread as I like the PD very much !
Regarding the painting, are you sure it had it's brown looks for TESB ? In all pics of it with a guy (in the shop, on set etc) it really looks to be black, it looks like the brown color was misted at a later date ??
Its def visible but when you look at it, but it doesn't look that obvious as with the flash photo's, looking at it under studio lighting it does appear to be the way it looks on film.
Its the same when I saw Hans hero jacket from ESB in a private collection, it was brown as was his coat in the Hoth sequences. I was totally taken back when I saw them in the flesh. The classic Han in Bespin Jacket is Brown through & through.
What type of lighting causes this illusion, can anyone shed some light (no pun intended).
I'm currently turning the house upside down looking for my chronicles & SAG, how can you loose 2 books that big! DOH!
J, I'm convinced there is a hell of a lot of repair paint work on the PD as it is now, Paint that wasn't on the original when it was shot.MonsieurTox said:
Looks like Lee's on the P38 (bondo) again, fly Lee, fly
Thanks for sharing the ref Guy. I can now see so many familiar kit parts. The hasegawa leopold and karl sure were used liberally throughout empire models.
I flew, its done lol. Just shaped it all in nicely, that seam is a real nasty bunch of crud to clean up.Guy Cowen said:
J, I'm convinced there is a hell of a lot of repair paint work on the PD as it is now, Paint that wasn't on the original when it was shot.
Looks like Lee's on the P38 (bondo) again, fly Lee, fly
Going to shoot another mist of primer tomorrow for the really intricate "bubble" fill work, but, its ready for kit parts now.
Ill shoot some pics tomorrow once i get to a save point lol.
Guy im going to start some test swatches soon on color, gonna try that Anthracite, and ive a few other rattler's i want to test, to see what you guys reckon.
Julien, yeah sorry, i got confuzzled while sanding and mixed you and Guys posts up......im high you see, Bondo, P38....totally trippy stuff
lee
I might do a couple tests down the road with a brown paint substrate, and a little dusting/burnishing (with a cloth) of some metallic powdered pigments. They scare me to death - those will coat your lungs and MESS YOU UP. I'll be doing that outside with mask, gloves, and probably a body condom
I kinda had a theory on the paint. In the ref, youll notice a large crack in the head, could be possible, this thing was dropped at some point, and the damage pretty bad, so they had to re dress the model maybe?
Seems odd too, on Guy mentioning the heads top hat being removable, that they just cut the red and blue power wires that run out of the head.
Jason, sounds good, but as Guy's pics show, the brown only seems to show under flash? Even in the repainted guise, it still shows up gun grey, and, in the flesh, Guy reports it to be grey......maybe its a low viz flip paint
lee
Need some help fella's. This part could be in something i have, and ive ran over it lazy eyed, but, cant seem to spot it.
Ive left it in shot next to the Quad gun part, so it gives a rough indication in size.
Any ideas?
lee
thanks for the ref pix guy. always loved this fella but think i find it too daunting to ever build (seems a pretty big vac plug). however, don't mind watching you kids knock down these bigger projects. keep up the momentum!
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Really great work mate, have replaced the 2 largest eyes also?
Yes Guy, two main (large) eyes cut off and replaced with kit parts.
lee
Looking very sharp!! Never realized just how big the probe droid is.
Also thanks for the images guy.
Build looks good, been enjoying the comments between you guys. Quick question, the chronicles book is out of production and fairly expensive, is it worth the money? I've found it for about 150.00 dollars (U.S.) and was wanting some opinions before I take the plunge, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
For pics alone...get it, its still very much a bible, and IMO, is still the best SW publication for ref material, and it never was that cheap anyway.
lee
Hey Lee,could that part be part #A15 from the 1/35 T34/76?I don't have the Quad gun to check for size.ralphee said:
Need some help fella's. This part could be in something i have, and ive ran over it lazy eyed, but, cant seem to spot it.
Ive left it in shot next to the Quad gun part, so it gives a rough indication in size.
Any ideas?
lee
Dave
Hey Guy,These 2 parts also look like part #A15 from the T34/76.the reverse side from the picture in my last post.Guy Cowen said:
These 2 (bottom) parts are still bugging me. I'm sure I have them but cant remember in what kit.
Dave
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