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    Oct 6, 2009 - SS AT-AT armature #1

    Hey guys,

    After the TESB AT-ST armature, we're planning to offer an AT-AT armature, while this thread is not an interested thread, feel free to post if you would like one but be aware that it wont be cheap (at least $2000). And it would take sometime before completion.

    Any help for this project would be great (pics of the armature -not of the prototype- etc...).

    I would also ask if anyone here knows a way to contact Jon Berg or/and Tom St-Amand ?

    Thanks !

    Interest list (in the order you posted here or pm'ed me) :

    1- qcfoundry
    2- Imaginager
    3- Moffeaton
    4- MonsieurTox
    5- Ralphee
    6- SWpropmaker
    7- Sandcrawler
    8- Guy Cowen
    9- JPolacchi (depending on price)
    10- Dragnink
    11- Locke_333
    12- mbmcfarland
    12- -... . .- --..
    13- swfan
    14- Darth Vinicius
    15- Anonymous 1
    16- Anonymous 2
    17- Anonymous 3 (2 armatures)
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    Oct 6, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #2

    Now that would be impressive, expensive and hard to engineer, but an impressive project to say the least Julien. Now would this be a direct copy of the parts layout as seen in publications such as 'ILM the art of special effects' with ball & socket joints or a similar deal?. Either way it will be a killer project J.
    Stu
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    Oct 7, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #3

    What an cool idea. I hope the best for you guys!
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    Oct 7, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #4

    Super-ambitious!! Are you and Quincy collaborating on this one?
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    Oct 7, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #5

    Thanks guys !

    Yes Matt, Quincy will turn my poor drawings into professional drawings ! He has a lot of experience with the AT-ST now


    eagle1 said: View Post
    Now that would be impressive, expensive and hard to engineer, but an impressive project to say the least Julien. Now would this be a direct copy of the parts layout as seen in publications such as 'ILM the art of special effects' with ball & socket joints or a similar deal?. Either way it will be a killer project J.
    Stu
    Hey Stu, the only ball and socket joint I see is the one which link the foot to the lower leg !
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    Oct 7, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #6

    Slightly off(scale?) subject.. I thought this was cool. Profiles in History is auctioning off the original AT-AT foot that was used to make the footprints in the scene where Luke dives off the Snowspeeder to miss getting crushed...

    Some high-res pics... supposedly it's 9 inches in diameter!

    http://www.icollector.com/images/120..._0967_2_lg.jpg
    http://www.icollector.com/images/120..._0967_1_lg.jpg

    Only estimated at.. 2-3K
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    Oct 7, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #7

    so matt...
    you make the tough choice...

    for 2K you get an WHOLE armature...or just the foot! lol

    gents, i agree, $2K sounds like a lot...but, i feel, this project may take a while. looking at the creation of the AT-ST, my revisions started at the end of February and we are just NOW all finally getting our finished product (thats with my wedding in there, which won't be happening ever again so minus 3/4 month of time). Thats roughly 6 months total. In addition, I was basically only CLEANING UP version 1 of the chicken, while this guy is a version 1, so lots of deciphering of pictures, reconfirming of dimensions, figuring best engineering vs. authentic prop design.....NOT to mention the size of this SOB.

    We all have other projects (as usual). I wold be amazed if we got the design and drawing done in 9 months....not to mention bidding it out, getting it fabricated, and shipped.

    Then again..
    perhaps the winds will be fair, and lots of ppl will chip in, we'll have terrific reference....lots of variables.

    Point:
    Even if it is a lot, you have time to hide away a weekly ration for the eventual cost.

    Food for thought.
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    Oct 7, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #8

    Hi guys, have you ever seen this video :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34tgu7ULkeM
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    Oct 8, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #9

    Doubt I'd be ale to aford it,but seeing the At-At armmature/ studio scale At-At would be pretty awsome.Don't know if it's possible to contact John Berg or Tom St. Armond?Are they still working for/at Lucas Film/ILM?Would it be a good idea to do so even if you could?It might put the legal dogs of Lucas Film on you and it could also possibly bring them here to the RPF,which may not be a great thing for some guys who have made S.S kits.Look what they've done to SMT and a few other guys..they got *spanked* pretty hard.
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    Oct 8, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #10

    No one's gonna get spanked for designing their own armature and paying to have it machined, identifying kit parts, and scratch-building their own replica.

    It's not my project, I'm just sayin...
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    Oct 8, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #11

    John, Im with Allan, I dont think Lucas can do anything about that since we're not breaking the rules... Just making a replica for ourselves and we dont make any money ! And Im sure Job Berg or Tom St-Amand would be glad to have a talk about armature engineering.

    Anyway the project is on its way, Ive almost finished the first drawing. I cant wait to see what Quincy will do with them !

    Matt, that's a very cool thing ! 2K is a good deal for such an item ! Piece of history
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    Oct 8, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #12

    The ones who would like one can PM, to get a rough estimation of the run.
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    Oct 8, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #13

    pm sent.
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    Oct 9, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #14

    Interested.
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    Oct 9, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #15

    I've got a contact that knows Berg, and I've hopefully gotten that ball rolling. Also, we might be looking at the cost being as "low" as $1,500 - but until the machine shop(s) can quote/bid on the project, it's still conjecture.

    But with Tox & QC on this, it'll be crazy-amazing!

    Like all prop runs of this nature, there's a minimum number of slots to fill as well as a maximum number that the shop will be willing to make for the run, so if you're thinking about wanting this, speak up, and bear in mind, you have some time to save up. This one will not happen overnight!
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    Oct 9, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #16

    Good news about Berg Jason !

    You're right there will be a limited number of slots. 10, 15, 20, I dont know... But we're pretty to get the 10 slots filled.

    There are about 100 parts per armature.

    I keep the ones interested posted.
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    Oct 9, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #17

    I reckon I'd be in J?
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    Oct 9, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #18

    I'm interested depending on "end cost".Would the price get driven down if a maximum is met?
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    Oct 9, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #19

    Will Mike K. be machining these or is a new shop being looked into?

    I'm definitely interested, I'll throw an e-mail off to Roy Sutherland and see if he can get in touch with Steve Gawley (who when they met had an original unpainted machined AT-AT leg). This was right before ILM closed so no guarantees...
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    Oct 9, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #20

    Matt,
    seems we have a preferred machinist in mind, but will be doing comparable bids to keep things fair.
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    Oct 10, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #21

    Does anyone know if the machining will be done conventionally or if the machinist will have CNC capabilities?It will speed time up for sure and will maintain tollerances,especially since he will be making so many parts and they all have to be the same. However,CNC typically has a higher cost and perhaps it won't help with keeping within a budget?
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    Oct 11, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #22

    interested for sure! PM sent
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    Oct 11, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #23

    While i have the vast majority of donors for this, wouldnt hurt to get into some "not yet found" parts maybe?
    I know Steve is god when it comes to this one, he's researched it for a long long time, maybe we can all get together, work as one, im quite keen to get hands on in this area, which is odd as ive been very "off" lately!

    bests......lee
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    Oct 11, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #24

    JPolacchi said: View Post
    Does anyone know if the machining will be done conventionally or if the machinist will have CNC capabilities?It will speed time up for sure and will maintain tollerances,especially since he will be making so many parts and they all have to be the same. However,CNC typically has a higher cost and perhaps it won't help with keeping within a budget?

    John, it will depends of the machinist we take.
    I cant say until the plans are finished and sent to the machinists then we have to do our choice
    We'll keep you informed though !
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    Oct 11, 2009 - Re: SS AT-AT armature #25

    Guys,

    I put you all on the list in the order you posted/sent me a pm, though I dont know yet how many armatures will be done for the run.
    Of course if someone leaves the boat then the next guy takes the slot etc...
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