Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace)

Guy Cowen · 11-13-2011, 05:44 AM

Its time to delve into the mind boggling enigma that is Slave 1, I will be openly standing on the shoulders of giants with this build. As we all know there is a small group of genius that have brought us this far with Slave 1. No need to roll the names off as we all know who they are. Its my obsession with wanting to paint this model that has lead me to crazy idea of trying to build it as well.

This wouldn't be possible without an awesome array of effort and talent, none of which is mine. The final decision for me was Jason's bringing to the table of the hull pulls, from my experience with the A wing I think I just may be able to pul something off that resembles Slave 1 and I intend to do it as much justice as possible especially knowing the work that has already been put in by others.

I've already stared the wings and have been collecting kits for a while so hope to get a decent chunk done before Xmas kicks in.

I know I cant be alone in this task and it would be great to hear from others that will be taking on this task so we can bounce idea's and cry on each others shoulders. For me its a grail and one I will not fill full of wine just Donors

This will be a long slow build, but a fun and demanding one.

jedimaster · 11-13-2011, 05:58 AM

Good luck mate... I thought I was crazy with the 5 fter. I wouldn't go near this one. I'd end up in a looney bin.

ralphee · 11-13-2011, 06:25 AM

Get in there Guy, you'll pull it off. Cant join you sadly, you know how i feel, but i really hope, Jason, and yourself pull this one off, really wanted to jump in with ya bud, but, cant really look at this prop anymore, i KNOW, between just you two, you'll nail it.
Lets face it, im getting married next year, so with the recent mention of an SS ATAT to the other half, well, the Slave One has already caused a few tiffs hehe!

lee

Scott Graham · 11-13-2011, 07:52 AM

Well, I bought Allan's fiberglass layup Richard did. But work and other issues keep bumping the building of stuff. So, if you'd like I can help a little. I've gotten pretty far into this donor-wise, but the armature and basic understructure are still a mystery. Watching Moe's build of the underside helped a little to understand what's going on. I still can't make out much of what's going on in the wing wells or cockpit. I mean, some major things are understood, but details are sketchy.

Guy Cowen · 11-13-2011, 09:36 AM

Simon, I may end up in the loony bin also mate!

Lee, you'll just have to make it up to Elsa with a lovely Honeymoon, maybe Norway, there's some lovely remote places, cough cough.
I know how you feel about it mate, so I'll build it on your behalf mate, may be jumping the gun as yet anyhow, When the hulls arrive I'll relax then get stressed

Scott, Pm sent mate, be good to bang heads with this build mate, looking forward to it.

Thanks to Jason again for even bothering to put the extra effort in to make this work.

moffeaton · 11-13-2011, 09:57 AM

I'm juuust dumb enough to dive in without thinking! Let's do this! I'm looking forward to the few mouth breathers who will point out our inevitable errors!

Guy Cowen · 11-13-2011, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moffeaton

I'm juuust dumb enough to dive in without thinking! Let's do this! I'm looking forward to the few mouth breathers who will point out our inevitable errors!

Sounds good Jason, I can take all manner of "thats wrong" I'd be happy with a 50% right Slave than no slave at all. Just make sure you brain rack openly mate

I really really am looking forward to this more than any anything I've done before. Well aside from Lighting a fart in Diana Ross's house, "Shameless namedrop"

moffeaton · 11-13-2011, 10:26 AM

Well, responsibilities come first - gotta finish the Y-Wing and am still juggling the Blimp project... but I can certainly start little sub-assemblies on the Slave 1, here and there... there's always a little down time to be had when something is drying or curing!

Guy Cowen · 11-13-2011, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ralphee

Get in there Guy, you'll pull it off. Cant join you sadly, you know how i feel, but i really hope, Jason, and yourself pull this one off, really wanted to jump in with ya bud, but, cant really look at this prop anymore, i KNOW, between just you two, you'll nail it.
Lets face it, im getting married next year, so with the recent mention of an SS ATAT to the other half, well, the Slave One has already caused a few tiffs hehe!

lee

Thanks for the vote of confidence mate. I'll try n keep it neat as well

Guy Cowen · 11-13-2011, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moffeaton

Well, responsibilities come first - gotta finish the Y-Wing and am still juggling the Blimp project... but I can certainly start little sub-assemblies on the Slave 1, here and there... there's always a little down time to be had when something is drying or curing!

Its not good enough Jason, your slacking already.

marvin · 11-13-2011, 03:32 PM

Reaaaaally looking forward to seeing this develop. You guys are amazing. With these Slave 1 builds and the AT-AT plans there's a lot to look forward to and well, strive for....

Can't wait to see the first pics. Good luck!

Marvin

MonsieurTox · 11-13-2011, 05:05 PM

Good luck Guy, if someone can do justice to the Slave One paintjob, that's you !

Guy Cowen · 11-13-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsieurTox

Good luck Guy, if someone can do justice to the Slave One paintjob, that's you !

Cheers Julien, I just hope I can build the bloody thing

Guy Cowen · 11-13-2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvin

Reaaaaally looking forward to seeing this develop. You guys are amazing. With these Slave 1 builds and the AT-AT plans there's a lot to look forward to and well, strive for....

Can't wait to see the first pics. Good luck!

Marvin

Thanks for the vote of confidence Marvin, it'll be slow but worth it I think

MonsieurTox · 11-13-2011, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Cowen

Cheers Julien, I just hope I can build the bloody thing

Yeah even with all the parts in hand it's a nightmare to figure how they go together lol

I will follow this thread with great interest !

Guy Cowen · 11-16-2011, 07:31 PM

I just started making a vac plug for the Entex door part. I'm going to scratch it for now, and see where things are at when its ready to assemble (a long way off).

3d-builder · 11-16-2011, 09:26 PM

You go Guy......thats a tasty part for forming you will have no problem
with that shape! Thats like taking candy from a baby.....ah you got a former
yet?

Gort · 11-17-2011, 07:02 AM

Hi Guy,

Good luck with this one. Another ship I'd like to conjour up for myself. After what you pulled off with the A-wing this should be a walk in the park...(Okay, its going to be a pretty BIG park, and a long walk, )...but you will prevail

Just seeing you paint up a Slave 1 will no doubt be a master class. I'll stay tuned on this one for sure

Cheers
Nick

IEDBOUNTYHUNTER · 11-17-2011, 07:37 AM

Hey Guy, you can always help me on the betty. i still have about 1000 parts to make.

Guy Cowen · 11-17-2011, 11:56 AM

Yeh Mike, Ive a small former I got from ebay last year or so. Its OK nothing major but enough to get these smaller parts done. I've only used it once for the top part of the A wing but the results where great.

Nick, thanks mate. The A-Wing was a real learning curve for me, I sometimes forget the work I put into it to get it looking the way I did. I had it out last night to get boxed up for the weekend and it still blows ME away knowing I did that.

As for the Slave it will be tough, a lot tougher than the A-wing for sure but I wont let it beat me and have great friends here and across the pond that will be a support and help when I need it, so onwards and upwards. As for painting it, thats the drive I have to build the sucker. Its on my bucket list.

Al, I think your coping extremely well on your own there mate. You'll have built and painted the complete ship before I get one wing done for the slave mate

ralphee · 11-17-2011, 12:00 PM

The Slave wings are a delicate work of pure art. Your going to do fine Guy, just remember less if more on the glue side of things lol, such a tricky blend of parts to bond.

lee

Scott Graham · 11-17-2011, 01:07 PM

I'm thinking about what Lee just said and it'd make a lot of sense to tack this, not glue it too securely, as you go along. That way you can make mistakes.

You're moving along with this much faster than I expected Guy. PM me again about the doors. Maybe I can give you the extras I have. I just didn't think you needed them so soon.

I just dug out my slave stuff that I have and will follow up. Also, I have to sell an entex porsche by putting two partially completed kits together to make one awesome one that'll sell well on ebay!

I'm following you to figure this out too, so let's get moving...

moffeaton · 11-17-2011, 01:38 PM

I'm not gluing any of my stuff down until I get the armature sorted!

Also have plans to have the Entex parts cast - I think Salzo actually has the doors molded already....

Guy Cowen · 11-17-2011, 02:10 PM

I agree re gluing stuff too soon, I'm making the wings as a sub part system as they'll still need to be done like this to get it all together on the armature. The wing well Leopold arm is the key to the armature placement.

I'm hoping my hulls will be on there way early next week so I can get a much better idea of all things slave.
I'm going to scratch the Entex wing parts till I can get hold of castings, mainly so I can carry on with other parts of the wings and to get the practise!

Scott, I'm too impatient to sit with a box of donors without tinkering mate. The harrier wings are a bit unclear re the cut under the Bt44B part but the SW blu ray has opened up a bit of info re the cut point and fit, well I think it has?

Be great to here from Tim Ketzer and Isel if your watching as you both where light years ahead with your wings, any advice would be awesome especially if hurdles have been jumped?

It would also be great to know who else has jumped on Jasons Hull set, it cant just be me?????

MonsieurTox · 11-17-2011, 02:15 PM

I didnt know Jason was selling hull set ?

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11-13-2011, 05:44 AM	#1
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,597	Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Its time to delve into the mind boggling enigma that is Slave 1, I will be openly standing on the shoulders of giants with this build. As we all know there is a small group of genius that have brought us this far with Slave 1. No need to roll the names off as we all know who they are. Its my obsession with wanting to paint this model that has lead me to crazy idea of trying to build it as well. This wouldn't be possible without an awesome array of effort and talent, none of which is mine. The final decision for me was Jason's bringing to the table of the hull pulls, from my experience with the A wing I think I just may be able to pul something off that resembles Slave 1 and I intend to do it as much justice as possible especially knowing the work that has already been put in by others. I've already stared the wings and have been collecting kits for a while so hope to get a decent chunk done before Xmas kicks in. I know I cant be alone in this task and it would be great to hear from others that will be taking on this task so we can bounce idea's and cry on each others shoulders. For me its a grail and one I will not fill full of wine just Donors This will be a long slow build, but a fun and demanding one.

11-13-2011, 05:58 AM	#2
jedimaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Planet Perth Posts: 1,785	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Good luck mate... I thought I was crazy with the 5 fter. I wouldn't go near this one. I'd end up in a looney bin.

11-13-2011, 06:25 AM	#3
ralphee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Birmingham,England. Posts: 4,622	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Get in there Guy, you'll pull it off. Cant join you sadly, you know how i feel, but i really hope, Jason, and yourself pull this one off, really wanted to jump in with ya bud, but, cant really look at this prop anymore, i KNOW, between just you two, you'll nail it. Lets face it, im getting married next year, so with the recent mention of an SS ATAT to the other half, well, the Slave One has already caused a few tiffs hehe! lee

11-13-2011, 07:52 AM	#4
Scott Graham Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,022	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Well, I bought Allan's fiberglass layup Richard did. But work and other issues keep bumping the building of stuff. So, if you'd like I can help a little. I've gotten pretty far into this donor-wise, but the armature and basic understructure are still a mystery. Watching Moe's build of the underside helped a little to understand what's going on. I still can't make out much of what's going on in the wing wells or cockpit. I mean, some major things are understood, but details are sketchy.

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11-13-2011, 09:36 AM	#5
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,597	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Simon, I may end up in the loony bin also mate! Lee, you'll just have to make it up to Elsa with a lovely Honeymoon, maybe Norway, there's some lovely remote places, cough cough. I know how you feel about it mate, so I'll build it on your behalf mate, may be jumping the gun as yet anyhow, When the hulls arrive I'll relax then get stressed Scott, Pm sent mate, be good to bang heads with this build mate, looking forward to it. Thanks to Jason again for even bothering to put the extra effort in to make this work.

11-13-2011, 09:57 AM	#6
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,543	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) I'm juuust dumb enough to dive in without thinking! Let's do this! I'm looking forward to the few mouth breathers who will point out our inevitable errors!

11-13-2011, 10:26 AM	#8
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,543	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Well, responsibilities come first - gotta finish the Y-Wing and am still juggling the Blimp project... but I can certainly start little sub-assemblies on the Slave 1, here and there... there's always a little down time to be had when something is drying or curing!

11-13-2011, 03:32 PM	#11
marvin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Delft, The Netherlands Posts: 169	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Reaaaaally looking forward to seeing this develop. You guys are amazing. With these Slave 1 builds and the AT-AT plans there's a lot to look forward to and well, strive for.... Can't wait to see the first pics. Good luck! Marvin

11-13-2011, 05:05 PM	#12
MonsieurTox Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Paris, France Posts: 2,807	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Good luck Guy, if someone can do justice to the Slave One paintjob, that's you !

11-16-2011, 07:31 PM	#16
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,597	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) I just started making a vac plug for the Entex door part. I'm going to scratch it for now, and see where things are at when its ready to assemble (a long way off).

11-16-2011, 09:26 PM	#17
3d-builder Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,410	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) You go Guy......thats a tasty part for forming you will have no problem with that shape! Thats like taking candy from a baby.....ah you got a former yet?

11-17-2011, 07:02 AM	#18
Gort Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 396	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Hi Guy, Good luck with this one. Another ship I'd like to conjour up for myself. After what you pulled off with the A-wing this should be a walk in the park...(Okay, its going to be a pretty BIG park, and a long walk, )...but you will prevail Just seeing you paint up a Slave 1 will no doubt be a master class. I'll stay tuned on this one for sure Cheers Nick

11-17-2011, 07:37 AM	#19
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER Modelmaker for Hire Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TexASS Posts: 882	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Hey Guy, you can always help me on the betty. i still have about 1000 parts to make.

11-17-2011, 11:56 AM	#20
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,597	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) Yeh Mike, Ive a small former I got from ebay last year or so. Its OK nothing major but enough to get these smaller parts done. I've only used it once for the top part of the A wing but the results where great. Nick, thanks mate. The A-Wing was a real learning curve for me, I sometimes forget the work I put into it to get it looking the way I did. I had it out last night to get boxed up for the weekend and it still blows ME away knowing I did that. As for the Slave it will be tough, a lot tougher than the A-wing for sure but I wont let it beat me and have great friends here and across the pond that will be a support and help when I need it, so onwards and upwards. As for painting it, thats the drive I have to build the sucker. Its on my bucket list. Al, I think your coping extremely well on your own there mate. You'll have built and painted the complete ship before I get one wing done for the slave mate

11-17-2011, 12:00 PM	#21
ralphee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Birmingham,England. Posts: 4,622	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) The Slave wings are a delicate work of pure art. Your going to do fine Guy, just remember less if more on the glue side of things lol, such a tricky blend of parts to bond. lee

11-17-2011, 01:07 PM	#22
Scott Graham Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,022	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) I'm thinking about what Lee just said and it'd make a lot of sense to tack this, not glue it too securely, as you go along. That way you can make mistakes. You're moving along with this much faster than I expected Guy. PM me again about the doors. Maybe I can give you the extras I have. I just didn't think you needed them so soon. I just dug out my slave stuff that I have and will follow up. Also, I have to sell an entex porsche by putting two partially completed kits together to make one awesome one that'll sell well on ebay! I'm following you to figure this out too, so let's get moving...

11-17-2011, 01:38 PM	#23
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,543	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) I'm not gluing any of my stuff down until I get the armature sorted! Also have plans to have the Entex parts cast - I think Salzo actually has the doors molded already....

11-17-2011, 02:10 PM	#24
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,597	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) I agree re gluing stuff too soon, I'm making the wings as a sub part system as they'll still need to be done like this to get it all together on the armature. The wing well Leopold arm is the key to the armature placement. I'm hoping my hulls will be on there way early next week so I can get a much better idea of all things slave. I'm going to scratch the Entex wing parts till I can get hold of castings, mainly so I can carry on with other parts of the wings and to get the practise! Scott, I'm too impatient to sit with a box of donors without tinkering mate. The harrier wings are a bit unclear re the cut under the Bt44B part but the SW blu ray has opened up a bit of info re the cut point and fit, well I think it has? Be great to here from Tim Ketzer and Isel if your watching as you both where light years ahead with your wings, any advice would be awesome especially if hurdles have been jumped? It would also be great to know who else has jumped on Jasons Hull set, it cant just be me?????

11-17-2011, 02:15 PM	#25
MonsieurTox Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Paris, France Posts: 2,807	Re: Slave to a Rhythm (with no grace) I didnt know Jason was selling hull set ?

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