New forum interest thread

3d-builder · 11-15-2011, 07:57 AM

Thought it would be cool to have a (Scratch-built) Studio Scale forum,
but you don't just get what you ask for, we need a certain amount of
positive response to get it. I think there might be enough guys who do
it, combined with people who like to see it......that maybe we can get
the forum.If your interested just post "INTERESTED" you don't obviously
have to build from scratch to be interested.

Obviously I would be ........

INTERESTED

IEDBOUNTYHUNTER · 11-15-2011, 08:01 AM

Very Interested

vaderdarth · 11-15-2011, 10:14 AM

Love it, this could be an incredible donor kit parts resource as well. The RPF has needed this for a long long time.

Interceptor6 · 11-15-2011, 10:15 AM

LOVE to see it!

Guy Cowen · 11-15-2011, 10:29 AM

Mike This is the best idea since the Wheel mate, well maybe nearly the best idea since the wheel?

It'd be a perfect place to come n learn, I love learning

ralphee · 11-15-2011, 10:43 AM

Interested!

lee

marvin · 11-15-2011, 11:07 AM

Color me interested. Definitely!

Marvin

Treadwell · 11-15-2011, 11:10 AM

I think the SS forum is fine the way it is. It isn't like there are a kajillion kit threads bumping all the scratch threads to page 50. It's a pretty low traffic forum, plenty of room for all kinds of SS projects.

DaddyfromNaboo · 11-15-2011, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treadwell

I think the SS forum is fine the way it is. It isn't like there are a kajillion kit threads bumping all the scratch threads to page 50. It's a pretty low traffic forum, plenty of room for all kinds of SS projects.

What Jay said.

Another subforum to maintain like having to sort out what belongs where is nothing anyone really wants to do.

For the moment I can´t see any valid reasons to have another subforum created. The tagging system might be useful for what you guys have in mind, though.

Michael
RPF staff

IEDBOUNTYHUNTER · 11-15-2011, 12:23 PM

I would be interested just because im not a kit assembler. I personally get tired of all the resin kits. Oh look another resin x wing

Guy Cowen · 11-15-2011, 12:23 PM

Whats tagging?

I'm a bit daft, sorry!

franz bolo · 11-15-2011, 12:26 PM

Interested!

FB

3d-builder · 11-15-2011, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManfromNaboo

What Jay said.

Another subforum to maintain like having to sort out what belongs where is nothing anyone really wants to do.

For the moment I can´t see any valid reasons to have another subforum created. The tagging system might be useful for what you guys have in mind, though.

Michael
RPF staff

This was an idea I had, I went to staff here at therpf i didn't
just start a thread. I was told to see how much interest there
would be. But that they the staff is reluctant to add more forums,
no one told me no....no one told me we don't need it.....only to try.
If your interested just post "Interested" this is not about fighting,
thanks guys.

qcfoundry · 11-15-2011, 01:35 PM

interested.
its not studio scale since it was never in a studio..
and its def'ly a different art form than the general modeling.

general modeling is akin to picking your own crayons when you color in a coloring book..
whereas scratchbuilding is using any medium on any canvas to create any subject.

totally different game, imo.

DaddyfromNaboo · 11-15-2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qcfoundry

interested.
its not studio scale since it was never in a studio..
and its def'ly a different art form than the general modeling.

We collect everything that is recreating a model that was used as a practical fx model in the studio scale forum, when it is to scale with the originally used model, kit form or scratch built.

Quote:

general modeling is akin to picking your own crayons when you color in a coloring book..
whereas scratchbuilding is using any medium on any canvas to create any subject.

totally different game, imo.

We collect everything that does not fit into the studio scale category in general modeling, regardless of how it is built. You can scratch build in a lot of media.

Regarding my opinion that we don´t really neeed another subforum stated above, just continue to hold the survey and don´t let yourself be stopped by my comment

Michael
RPF staff

FANTAMATION · 11-15-2011, 02:19 PM

Maybe instead of separating scratch building from the rest it might be better to separate resin kits from the rest and have just a subforum on resin kits? I agree with the "oh no, not another resin...... "whatever" kit thread!!

JMChladek · 11-15-2011, 02:37 PM

Well, the one weird blur I can see is what is considered a "scratchbuilt" SS model? We all know in the case of the X-Wings that for the hero and pyro models, some kind of master was made and a copy was done of the parts and the copies were assembled and painted LIKE a kit. Most big production companies that made more than one model would go through some form of parts duplication if they needed to and in some cases, the "kits" being built on RPF come from the original parts molds.

Things can also get a bit convoluted on projects as well. So say I've got an Estes Maxi-Brute X-Wing kit (which is studio model scale). In order to do with it what Bill George did to his over at the SSM gallery MANY years ago to make it an SS replica, I would need to add A LOT of parts to it. So do I put it in SS kits because it is a kit, or do I put it in Scratchbuild because of what is needed to do it up right?

I'll do some soul searching on my own as I am kind of on the fence. But right now, more of me is saying there is no need to really mess with the threads as I've generally been able to find what I've looked for in my searches.

ralphee · 11-15-2011, 02:44 PM

Ok, i did say interested, but you have to think of this, what about the guys who work there butts off, making a terrible, or very innaccurate GK into a thing of beauty, via original donors, and scratchbuilding, then it becomes a hybrid no?
Guess the door does swing both ways, its a good idea, but hard to clarify between IMO.
I do agree its hard to watch X wing after X wing in GK form, but you also have too look at what some of these guys put in to these kits to make them far more accurate than the patternmaker intended.

Lee

Treadwell · 11-15-2011, 02:48 PM

Let's have some mercy on our mods, who have enough trouble moving inappropriate modeling threads out of SS into General Modeling. Some perspective: some folks don't even get why SS needs to be separated from General in the first place. Let's not be a burden.

Like JMChladek said, many builds have both scratchbuilt and resin components. Where to draw the line?

3d-builder · 11-15-2011, 03:17 PM

Well how about this .........A Sci/fi scratch built section end of story starshipmodeler has one they figured it out.

IEDBOUNTYHUNTER · 11-15-2011, 03:37 PM

There you go, anything as long as its scratch-built.

Al

ralphee · 11-15-2011, 04:06 PM

Id bet you would still have the mods moving GK from this proposed forum too though, so Jay has a point, it could turn out to be a PITA for the mods, and annoy the builders to find subjects in it that arent up to the criteria?
Second thoughts on this one now, id say leave it be.

Lee

Apophis · 11-15-2011, 04:10 PM

interested lol!

3d-builder · 11-15-2011, 04:30 PM

You know what JUST DELETE THE THREAD! Because only a few can listen anyway....I asked to just post "Interested" and let the powers to be figure it out. But it seems many here don't get that.....thanks to all the people who just posted "Interested".......I quit keep it the same damn way it is.

Peace.

3d-builder · 11-15-2011, 04:44 PM

I was never asked to figure it out.....just see about interest, but sure
enough we need to have a discussion, there is no discussion here about
how it works. Thats not up to us thats up to the mods and owner and
anyone in that dept. We made this much harder by not listening........
I am done with it this will be my last post about it.

See you in the Studio Scale Section right here on therpf.

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11-15-2011, 07:57 AM	#1
3d-builder Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,394	New forum interest thread Thought it would be cool to have a (Scratch-built) Studio Scale forum, but you don't just get what you ask for, we need a certain amount of positive response to get it. I think there might be enough guys who do it, combined with people who like to see it......that maybe we can get the forum.If your interested just post "INTERESTED" you don't obviously have to build from scratch to be interested. Obviously I would be ........ INTERESTED

11-15-2011, 08:01 AM	#2
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER Modelmaker for Hire Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TexASS Posts: 876	Re: New forum interest thread Very Interested

11-15-2011, 10:14 AM	#3
vaderdarth Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 9,744	Re: New forum interest thread Love it, this could be an incredible donor kit parts resource as well. The RPF has needed this for a long long time.

11-15-2011, 10:15 AM	#4
Interceptor6 I shall avenge you. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunny Sarasota Posts: 601	Re: New forum interest thread LOVE to see it!

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11-15-2011, 10:29 AM	#5
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,582	Re: New forum interest thread Mike This is the best idea since the Wheel mate, well maybe nearly the best idea since the wheel? It'd be a perfect place to come n learn, I love learning

11-15-2011, 10:43 AM	#6
ralphee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Birmingham,England. Posts: 4,614	Re: New forum interest thread Interested! lee

11-15-2011, 11:07 AM	#7
marvin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Delft, The Netherlands Posts: 169	Color me interested. Definitely! Marvin

11-15-2011, 11:10 AM	#8
Treadwell Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 15,366	Re: New forum interest thread I think the SS forum is fine the way it is. It isn't like there are a kajillion kit threads bumping all the scratch threads to page 50. It's a pretty low traffic forum, plenty of room for all kinds of SS projects.

11-15-2011, 12:23 PM	#10
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER Modelmaker for Hire Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TexASS Posts: 876	Re: New forum interest thread I would be interested just because im not a kit assembler. I personally get tired of all the resin kits. Oh look another resin x wing

11-15-2011, 12:23 PM	#11
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,582	Re: New forum interest thread Whats tagging? I'm a bit daft, sorry!

11-15-2011, 12:26 PM	#12
franz bolo Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,950	Re: New forum interest thread Interested! FB

11-15-2011, 01:35 PM	#14
qcfoundry Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 419	Re: New forum interest thread interested. its not studio scale since it was never in a studio.. and its def'ly a different art form than the general modeling. general modeling is akin to picking your own crayons when you color in a coloring book.. whereas scratchbuilding is using any medium on any canvas to create any subject. totally different game, imo.

11-15-2011, 02:19 PM	#16
FANTAMATION Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 237	Re: New forum interest thread Maybe instead of separating scratch building from the rest it might be better to separate resin kits from the rest and have just a subforum on resin kits? I agree with the "oh no, not another resin...... "whatever" kit thread!!

11-15-2011, 02:37 PM	#17
JMChladek Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 761	Re: New forum interest thread Well, the one weird blur I can see is what is considered a "scratchbuilt" SS model? We all know in the case of the X-Wings that for the hero and pyro models, some kind of master was made and a copy was done of the parts and the copies were assembled and painted LIKE a kit. Most big production companies that made more than one model would go through some form of parts duplication if they needed to and in some cases, the "kits" being built on RPF come from the original parts molds. Things can also get a bit convoluted on projects as well. So say I've got an Estes Maxi-Brute X-Wing kit (which is studio model scale). In order to do with it what Bill George did to his over at the SSM gallery MANY years ago to make it an SS replica, I would need to add A LOT of parts to it. So do I put it in SS kits because it is a kit, or do I put it in Scratchbuild because of what is needed to do it up right? I'll do some soul searching on my own as I am kind of on the fence. But right now, more of me is saying there is no need to really mess with the threads as I've generally been able to find what I've looked for in my searches.

11-15-2011, 02:44 PM	#18
ralphee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Birmingham,England. Posts: 4,614	Re: New forum interest thread Ok, i did say interested, but you have to think of this, what about the guys who work there butts off, making a terrible, or very innaccurate GK into a thing of beauty, via original donors, and scratchbuilding, then it becomes a hybrid no? Guess the door does swing both ways, its a good idea, but hard to clarify between IMO. I do agree its hard to watch X wing after X wing in GK form, but you also have too look at what some of these guys put in to these kits to make them far more accurate than the patternmaker intended. Lee

11-15-2011, 02:48 PM	#19
Treadwell Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 15,366	Re: New forum interest thread Let's have some mercy on our mods, who have enough trouble moving inappropriate modeling threads out of SS into General Modeling. Some perspective: some folks don't even get why SS needs to be separated from General in the first place. Let's not be a burden. Like JMChladek said, many builds have both scratchbuilt and resin components. Where to draw the line?

11-15-2011, 03:17 PM	#20
3d-builder Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,394	Re: New forum interest thread Well how about this .........A Sci/fi scratch built section end of story starshipmodeler has one they figured it out.

11-15-2011, 03:37 PM	#21
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER Modelmaker for Hire Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TexASS Posts: 876	Re: New forum interest thread There you go, anything as long as its scratch-built. Al

11-15-2011, 04:06 PM	#22
ralphee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Birmingham,England. Posts: 4,614	Re: New forum interest thread Id bet you would still have the mods moving GK from this proposed forum too though, so Jay has a point, it could turn out to be a PITA for the mods, and annoy the builders to find subjects in it that arent up to the criteria? Second thoughts on this one now, id say leave it be. Lee

11-15-2011, 04:10 PM	#23
Apophis Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fishersville, Va/Chulak Posts: 742	Re: New forum interest thread interested lol!

11-15-2011, 04:30 PM	#24
3d-builder Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,394	Re: New forum interest thread You know what JUST DELETE THE THREAD! Because only a few can listen anyway....I asked to just post "Interested" and let the powers to be figure it out. But it seems many here don't get that.....thanks to all the people who just posted "Interested".......I quit keep it the same damn way it is. Peace. Last edited by 3d-builder; 11-15-2011 at 04:40 PM.

11-15-2011, 04:44 PM	#25
3d-builder Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,394	Re: New forum interest thread I was never asked to figure it out.....just see about interest, but sure enough we need to have a discussion, there is no discussion here about how it works. Thats not up to us thats up to the mods and owner and anyone in that dept. We made this much harder by not listening........ I am done with it this will be my last post about it. See you in the Studio Scale Section right here on therpf.