Neisen TIE armature

moffeaton · 06-08-2011, 08:57 AM

Any one here built a TIE/Interceptor with the metal armature yet? I took the armature to the machine shop locally, to get them to make an adapter that'd take the central mount point down to accept a Panavise.

The armature is not a standard threaded size - what thread is this thing supposed to be? 1/2 inch bolts just slide in and drop out!!!

The machine shop recommends I fix a mount from the bottom and be done, as the threads themselves are very rough and shallow.

Has any one actually used this armature?

Scott Graham · 06-08-2011, 11:56 AM

Nope. Mine's in a box still...we're supposed to build these?! hehe

Thanks for the heads up! Sorry I can't help.

voice in the crowd · 06-08-2011, 01:02 PM

Hi,

If the thread is too wide you could try using a helicoil in it. You should be able to use a helicoil straight off or tap the hole and put the helicoil in place.

Even if you cannot get a helicoil to match the Panavise the helicoil insert will give you solid threads to fit an adaptor.

Hope this makes sense

Cheers Chris

dirtydave · 06-08-2011, 03:01 PM

Hey Jason,I believe they are 1/4" pipe thread.I used an oil fitting I had & it seems to fit well.

I can get a 1/4" black iron nipple at work tomorrow & give it a try to be sure.

Have you ask Steve to see what size he says it is?

Dave

moffeaton · 06-08-2011, 03:11 PM

Is a 1/4" pipe thread different from a 1/2" threaded bolt?

moffeaton · 06-08-2011, 03:19 PM

I'm getting hopeful, Dave, thank you:

¼ steel pipe (13.72mm) - this sounds like it'd work.

I just wish we were told what to use/how to build - all I got was a box with parts. Going to guess my way through it.

The nice thing about the pipe - I can have the guys in the shop weld a female 1/4" threaded deelie to the inside of a bit of pipe and make a bridge to a Panavise! They can't weld to aluminum easily.

Zombie Killer · 06-08-2011, 03:37 PM

Yes that looks like 1/4" NPT. I think the original ones were like this too from what i have seen in pics. They probably just used long pipes screwed into the armature. Makes for an easy on and off solution.

dirtydave · 06-08-2011, 03:38 PM

I don't have a1/2" bolt to compare,but I think they would be different.

I'm confident the 1/4" pipe thread is right.The oil fitting I tried is brass & fit very well.I'll try the 1/4" black iron nipple(used for oil/natural gas) tomorrow & LYK.

Glad I can help,Dave

moffeaton · 06-08-2011, 03:41 PM

You guys are awesome. Gas pipe is readily available here, so it'll be a cinch. Looking forward to your confirmation!

dirtydave · 06-08-2011, 03:45 PM

Really glad I could help.Can't wait to see your build.

Dave

jedimaster · 06-08-2011, 06:54 PM

I couldn't find anything to fit mine. Then whilst sitting in the shed with my head up my arse I knocked over a gidgee (for spear fishing) it was the type that comes apart in the middle. So I figured what the heck, unscrewed the two halves and F@$k me dead If I'm lying.... It fit! Still couldn't tell you the size and it would look better on a panavise so awaiting with baited breath....

GKvfx · 06-08-2011, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Graham

Nope. Mine's in a box still...we're supposed to build these?! hehe

Thanks for the heads up! Sorry I can't help.

I don't buy model kits to build them. I buy them to look at the boxes and complain about the details........

Gene

dirtydave · 06-09-2011, 03:04 PM

Sorry Jason,busy at work today & it totally slipped my mind.
I'll try to remember tomorrow.

Dave

moffeaton · 06-09-2011, 03:06 PM

Thanks!

dirtydave · 06-10-2011, 02:35 PM

Jason,grabbed a 1/4" nipple at work today & it fits great,nice & snug.Don't know if Home depot would carry them(worth a try),but any plumbing supply place will have them.

Hope this helps ya.

Dave

moffeaton · 06-10-2011, 02:39 PM

I'm off to Ace! Thanks Dave!

dirtydave · 06-10-2011, 05:01 PM

Anytime.

swfan · 06-11-2011, 09:32 PM

I had a problem with mine. Couldn't get 1/4 inch to fit. I had to use metric to find a match. Can't remember the exact measurements though. I'll look through my stuff.

Isel

dirtydave · 06-12-2011, 08:50 AM

Hmm.The 1/4 worked fine on mine.Jason maybe you should wait for the size Isel used just to be sure.

Did Steve ever give the size?

Dave

punkpigpen · 06-27-2011, 02:30 AM

I just did the armature. I got the kit from Steve recently. only the last wing to be attached. i think its 1/4 in the center for panavise. the side screw holes on the wings were 2 different threadings on mine weird. but i didnt employ that method.

moffeaton · 06-27-2011, 09:01 AM

Unless he changed the armature, there's no way it's threaded for a Panavise.

Steve didn't even provide instructions...

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06-08-2011, 08:57 AM	#1
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,534	Neisen TIE armature Any one here built a TIE/Interceptor with the metal armature yet? I took the armature to the machine shop locally, to get them to make an adapter that'd take the central mount point down to accept a Panavise. The armature is not a standard threaded size - what thread is this thing supposed to be? 1/2 inch bolts just slide in and drop out!!! The machine shop recommends I fix a mount from the bottom and be done, as the threads themselves are very rough and shallow. Has any one actually used this armature?

06-08-2011, 11:56 AM	#2
Scott Graham Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,021	Re: Neisen TIE armature Nope. Mine's in a box still...we're supposed to build these?! hehe Thanks for the heads up! Sorry I can't help.

06-08-2011, 01:02 PM	#3
voice in the crowd Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 1,887	Re: Neisen TIE armature Hi, If the thread is too wide you could try using a helicoil in it. You should be able to use a helicoil straight off or tap the hole and put the helicoil in place. Even if you cannot get a helicoil to match the Panavise the helicoil insert will give you solid threads to fit an adaptor. Hope this makes sense Cheers Chris

06-08-2011, 03:01 PM	#4
dirtydave Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 380	Re: Neisen TIE armature Hey Jason,I believe they are 1/4" pipe thread.I used an oil fitting I had & it seems to fit well. I can get a 1/4" black iron nipple at work tomorrow & give it a try to be sure. Have you ask Steve to see what size he says it is? Dave

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06-08-2011, 03:11 PM	#5
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,534	Re: Neisen TIE armature Is a 1/4" pipe thread different from a 1/2" threaded bolt? Last edited by moffeaton; 06-08-2011 at 03:41 PM.

06-08-2011, 03:19 PM	#6
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,534	Re: Neisen TIE armature I'm getting hopeful, Dave, thank you: ¼ steel pipe (13.72mm) - this sounds like it'd work. I just wish we were told what to use/how to build - all I got was a box with parts. Going to guess my way through it. The nice thing about the pipe - I can have the guys in the shop weld a female 1/4" threaded deelie to the inside of a bit of pipe and make a bridge to a Panavise! They can't weld to aluminum easily.

06-08-2011, 03:37 PM	#7
Zombie Killer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rocky Mount NC Posts: 1,443	Re: Neisen TIE armature Yes that looks like 1/4" NPT. I think the original ones were like this too from what i have seen in pics. They probably just used long pipes screwed into the armature. Makes for an easy on and off solution.

06-08-2011, 03:38 PM	#8
dirtydave Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 380	Re: Neisen TIE armature I don't have a1/2" bolt to compare,but I think they would be different. I'm confident the 1/4" pipe thread is right.The oil fitting I tried is brass & fit very well.I'll try the 1/4" black iron nipple(used for oil/natural gas) tomorrow & LYK. Glad I can help,Dave

06-08-2011, 03:41 PM	#9
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,534	Re: Neisen TIE armature You guys are awesome. Gas pipe is readily available here, so it'll be a cinch. Looking forward to your confirmation!

06-08-2011, 03:45 PM	#10
dirtydave Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 380	Re: Neisen TIE armature Really glad I could help.Can't wait to see your build. Dave

06-08-2011, 06:54 PM	#11
jedimaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Planet Perth Posts: 1,782	Re: Neisen TIE armature I couldn't find anything to fit mine. Then whilst sitting in the shed with my head up my arse I knocked over a gidgee (for spear fishing) it was the type that comes apart in the middle. So I figured what the heck, unscrewed the two halves and F@$k me dead If I'm lying.... It fit! Still couldn't tell you the size and it would look better on a panavise so awaiting with baited breath....

06-09-2011, 03:04 PM	#13
dirtydave Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 380	Re: Neisen TIE armature Sorry Jason,busy at work today & it totally slipped my mind. I'll try to remember tomorrow. Dave

06-09-2011, 03:06 PM	#14
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,534	Re: Neisen TIE armature Thanks!

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06-10-2011, 02:35 PM	#15
dirtydave Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 380	Re: Neisen TIE armature Jason,grabbed a 1/4" nipple at work today & it fits great,nice & snug.Don't know if Home depot would carry them(worth a try),but any plumbing supply place will have them. Hope this helps ya. Dave

06-10-2011, 02:39 PM	#16
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,534	Re: Neisen TIE armature I'm off to Ace! Thanks Dave!

06-10-2011, 05:01 PM	#17
dirtydave Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 380	Re: Neisen TIE armature Anytime.

06-11-2011, 09:32 PM	#18
swfan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 260	Re: Neisen TIE armature I had a problem with mine. Couldn't get 1/4 inch to fit. I had to use metric to find a match. Can't remember the exact measurements though. I'll look through my stuff. Isel

06-12-2011, 08:50 AM	#19
dirtydave Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 380	Re: Neisen TIE armature Hmm.The 1/4 worked fine on mine.Jason maybe you should wait for the size Isel used just to be sure. Did Steve ever give the size? Dave

06-27-2011, 02:30 AM	#20
punkpigpen Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New Hope Pennsylvania Posts: 72	Re: Neisen TIE armature I just did the armature. I got the kit from Steve recently. only the last wing to be attached. i think its 1/4 in the center for panavise. the side screw holes on the wings were 2 different threadings on mine weird. but i didnt employ that method.

06-27-2011, 09:01 AM	#21
moffeaton Hey there, Blimpy Boy... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 6,534	Re: Neisen TIE armature Unless he changed the armature, there's no way it's threaded for a Panavise. Steve didn't even provide instructions...