You NURBS-loving son-of-a-*****!
They will be great once printed. This whole project has come together so well - and fast!
Craig
You NURBS-loving son-of-a-*****!
They will be great once printed. This whole project has come together so well - and fast!
Craig
Jason, ha ha, yes and no. I still differ on a couple few things - Martin's nozzles are basically square in elevation whereas mine taper more; the overall height of my engine is slightly greater, as is the cross-sectional area - rivet-counter stuff like that. But I was definitely wrong to think his engines were substantially (10mm or more) shorter than they should be.
Craig, damn right - if God had meant man to work with poly meshes he would have given us computers for brains or something.
I have three small styrene prototypes in my shed and one abandoned SS armature, so it's not as fast as all that if the original research counts, ha ha. Just kidding, I never got anywhere with it and all credit to Paul and Simon as this really is moving pretty quick. Speaking of, we just wrapped up a morning meeting here at my place, we think we have ways forward on a few questions that had arisen.
We'll be making some changes to the engine seat areas in particular and have a few more plans on how to tackle this or that. Man, that proto looks good in person!
Nice Simon!! It looks great with kit parts in place...
Thanks for the meeting this morning Fellas. It's nice to know we are on track.
Martyn and I will sort out the minor adjustments needed to the engine mounts, and have planned what we need to do for the remaining outstanding items. Everything else is looking good *phew!*
But WHAT a puzzle!!! I know it's been said before, but DAMN you guys are good....
Watertight, hollowed out for print, has the top scoop detail and it's in the print queue, finally! I decided to scribe the panel lines after printing, so I can obsess some more about exact locations before biting the bullet. Also the Evergreen strip detail can be actual Evergreen strip - **** it, as they say.
And it's hollow to save on weight?! Stop spoiling people!
Solid ones for Jase Martyn. You can foam fill em if ya want but run ya wires first. We ain't doing everything for ya but we didn't want folks to get their hands dirty. You won't be needing a dremmel to build this , just an exacto blade and some glue and ya done.
Hahaha! Yeah, I doubt they'll even need foam. I love this new-fangled age we live in.
I'm officially signing off on the styrene panels. Everything fits...yeah!!!
Even the "Ole Gal" herself.
Some parts in the pix are just dumped on there for the pix and need some trimming. Gonna post some more I'd pix in a while.
need some help on these. The green in the first pic parts are used 3 times on this model.
The Pink bits in this pic are also used 3 times.
Cheers.
Looks awesome Martyn.Nwerke said:
Watertight, hollowed out for print, has the top scoop detail and it's in the print queue, finally! I decided to scribe the panel lines after printing, so I can obsess some more about exact locations before biting the bullet. Also the Evergreen strip detail can be actual Evergreen strip - **** it, as they say.
Any chance you could send me a dxf of the engine elevations so I can modify the mounts to suit?
WoHoo!jedimaster said:
Apart from those already discussed, did you find anything that needs tweaking?
I'm going to make a further couple of minor adjustments after studying the reference pics some more. Not really anything to effect the ship itself, but more on how it is constructed. Will work on that this week and look at buying some styrene too now that the layout has been signed off...
having some mesh errors appearing on the uploads. Bit of rework.......okay, done. I didn't actually get it in the print queue last night - PC crashed just as the final upload was at 97%, which I took as a sign to go the **** to sleep.
I tried a single-part upload with the nozzle included but it is likely going to be easier to mould as a separate part and slightly cheaper to print that way anyway for some reason. Anyway, HAVE now hit 'print' and should have these in hand in a couple of weeks (now I'll find the rest of the errors, lol.)
Jason, heh! The final part will be hollow though probably not as thin as this (2.5mm wall thickness); might need to clay it a little for casting. It's mainly about saving moolah TBH, since Shapeways charges by the cubic centimetre.
Clamp part also in print queue now. Paul - thanks for that file - I added in the whole structure. I just looked at it and thought 'this might as well be one piece'. It's a deviation from fidelity admittedly, soif we don't like it when we take a look, we can always just cut the extra bits off.
Oh also I redid the strake detail on the nozzle, I'd thinned them down too much. Gone back to thicker strakes, looks better IMO. Old version and new version shown here. Nozzle-less body too, to show that that looks like on its own.
Yep yep, that's up next. I wanted to knock the engine off because of the lead time getting the prints back, now that's done I'll work up a half decent elevation for you.Woodlake said:
Also mustn't forget to get the nozzle support details under way, oh yeah and the top engine, hehe.
Yeah, when you charge by the volume of material used, every one suddenly is motivated to make their parts hollow-we all win. Good break down for casting, too.
Fettle those tumblehomes while you're at it.
Lee S asked for a look at the clamp, here you go Lee. It's symmetrical, but looks like it isn't in some screencaps. Shadows, the main clamp obscuring parts, or were they broken or trimmed during filming? Dunno.
LOL, Jason, I probably *should*...but there's a few things I want to do the old-fashioned way, with sandpaper and swearing.
Revised nozzle looks good Martyn.Nwerke said:
No worries on the dxf's - whenever you can - I still have plenty to do!
Look forward to seeing what the clamps look like printed.
Hey Martyn,
Thanks for the pic. I can see that it was symmetrical during construction, but in the painted/on set pics those end pieces certainly appear to be trimmed. Probably once the docking clamp was made.
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Nwerke said:
Watertight, hollowed out for print, has the top scoop detail and it's in the print queue, finally! I decided to scribe the panel lines after printing, so I can obsess some more about exact locations before biting the bullet. Also the Evergreen strip detail can be actual Evergreen strip - **** it, as they say.
Just curious, why would you scribe a part after it is
grown when you can create scribe line " in " the grown
part ? Would save allot of headaches !
You know, I spent the entire day the other day staring at photos of that clamp, and I never noticed that. Its still symmetrical , but it certainly does looks like it has been trimmed. Good eye Lee!Lee S said:
Here's another pic that appears to show it.
I'm still unsure - it could be shadows, couldn't it? But I've always wondered how the clamp was supposed to work practically, and trimming this part might easily have been a solution to some fit problem. I propose we provide the part complete, and builders can trim it themselves if they wish.
Wolvster, the reasons number three, three being the number of the count - to five shalt thou not count: 1) I'll likely second-guess myself on the exact location for the lines anyway, 2) it's easy - I have two thirds of bugger all skill in CG modeling so five minutes with a pencil and scriber will equal four hours of struggle in Rhino, and 3) we're using real kit parts for the side details, I decided to use real Evergreen too, might as well use real panel lines, heh.
Five. Three, sire! <lobs holy hand grenade>
BTW - anyone have a clue what Evergreen part number to look for for the ribbed panels? I don't know their range at all, never used it in fact.
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