ESB AT-ST Turkey Walker (Chicken to the talented)

imaginager

The sides need to be lengthened to match the top; the top and both sides are all too short. I'm not sure if Q modified the drawing to account for it - he may have. Best to check with him.

qcfoundry

i did tinker with the head drawing a little, allan. so what i've released is a little different than your all's original work. sad part is, i can't remember what areas i tweaked.

the drawings for the buck ad an extra inch towards the back of the neck, so those templates SHOULD be fine, just have to be awake when you're cutting the back edge.

i have yet to add the rail to the top of the head, so i'm still blissfully ignorant. i would recommend everyone lay out the parts as allan mentioned before making the plunge.

remember little carpenters: measure twice, cut once.

qcfoundry

not sure if i'm following your exactly..?
sounds like your bucks would have a "butt-cut" haircut....a bit of a valley right down the middle if it combed its hair? if thats the case, no -- its actually a flat "buzz cut"

the front template may look like it since the top edge "frowns" down...however the top template plate bows towards the front and makes up that curve. make sense?

joewhite

In makes perfect sense. Yeah, a "butt-cut" is what my AT-ST mold has going on right now. Ok, I need to break the molds and re-accomplish the curvature on top. No biggie, I'll have to re-pour but plaster is stupid-cheap anyway.

Joe

KrokoHunter

I followed Quincys latest set of drawings, and the top plate is 3-4 mm too short compared to the side walls .... but I haven't checked, if the sidewalls are actually long enough.

qcfoundry

Niels,
when you say short, are you speaking of the templates for making the vac-buck? if so, thats true, they are short and supposed to be. review joe's pics in post #31. (when the head is upside down, the back plate sits on top of the top plate
if you're speaking about the head shape itself, ...well i'm surprised (it worked for me). joe, did you get this coming up short?

ralphee

Not sure if this will help guys, but heres one of the head pics i took a while back of mine.
The armor plate seems to line up about right, and allows good placement of the topside donors.
Cant recall if i took the dims from the M5A1 cut as it should be on the prop or not, looking at Joe's plate, it hasnt had the cuts made at the front anlges yet?
As i said, i went my own kinda way on this part with sheet, its still not 100% on the money, but as close as i could muster at the time.
Only realised the other day i still need to add the rest of the hose on this one lol.....yet another job for a rainy day i guess .

lee

Guy Cowen

Looking good for a Sunday Visit Lee, if your still around, and my PD base arrived today. IT is stunning, will try n take a pic later. Matt has done an incredible job.

Guy Cowen

Wrong thread....doh!

Guy Cowen

Well, my wallet is certainly lighter this week, paid for both the 312B's today, Frozen water for Tea for a few weeks I thinks.

KrokoHunter

Hey Quincy

yup I meant the headshape .. I'm scratching the head in styrenesheet .. it's actually pretty evident, that the top plate is shorter ... the distance from the dashed line (indicating the backwall) to the rear of the top and side plates doesn't match

qcfoundry

i've remeasured (from CAD) and everything matches up pretty close (nowhere near 3-4 mm bust you're speaking of).
i wonder if you've misinterpreted how each of the pieces go together (as illustrated by the different dashed lines at each edge of the head)?
anyway you can provide a picture to show which dimension you're finding the difference?

i measured (both top plate and side plate) the distance from the back plate location (longer dashed line) to the back edge of the top and side plates - and there only a 1/16" difference.

are you just measuring straight lines on the templates or have you actually glued it all together? there are compound curves on this head that making measuring flat plate a no-no.

joewhite

Even though I made a slight mistake assembling the black art board mock-up (I didn't follow the dash lines properly), I didn't run into any panels being short. The aft end of the side panels line up almost perfectly with the aft end of the top panel. However, if going the vac-buck route, it really doesn't matter since you'll be in control of cutting out the parts.

Just to note, the art board is .060" just like the stock used on the original, which is correct, right?


Yeah, I haven't made any cuts to my donor parts yet. Which is going to suck for some of the test placements. I plan on molding every part like Jestefarean so that I can make two models. I just can't bring myself to use most of those original donor parts. I'll use easier-to-get original parts on my (hopefully) metal armature model but the static model will sport all resin.

So until I make copies, I'll have to work with whatever parts I can for taking measurements and aligning over the art board cut outs.

BTW, Lee, I remember having that PM conversation about vac-form vs. plate head. I think your's looks just like, if not, really close to the original. Therefore, I will also make a plate version head. It' won't be hard to laser etch a seam line down the middle.

Joe

ralphee

Joe, bud i forgot about that, do you want me to take a load of pics of this head?
May help, as i said, i wont cry out mine is spot on, but its damb close to my eye, so it may help you sheet styrene boys.

Lee

joewhite

More pics would be awesome!!!! I've Scrapbook'ed just about every major SS Star Wars thread here but more info is always better! I'll PM you my email address...

Joe

qcfoundry

great point..
can't remember if its spelled out on the drawing, but 0.06" is what the vac head was pulled from, thus what the buck shell should be also. i'm afraid that may not help Niels much though (if we're talking alignment issues with the aft lines).

KrokoHunter

I'll see, if I can take some pics tonight ... but no worries ... I've just cut a new top a bit longer ...

joewhite

So it appears that the sag in the vac-mold top panel might have been caused by the summer heat in the garage after all. I massaged one of the molds back to the right shape. I'll be pouring a new mold tomorrow.

Joe

KrokoHunter

Whoops .. my bad .. turned out.. that the length difference was closer to 1mm than 3-4 mm ... but there is a small difference in the drawings

But nothing that ain't easy to fix

Voodoocaster

I know this is maybe of topic but could anybody here point me in the right direction of finding the decals used on the head of esb AT-ST.
I am talking about the red"bullskull"decal as seen on the picture above posted by Lee.
I have read, i think all the threats about building this version but nobody seems to mention where the decals come from.
Thanks.

ralphee

Drawn by Rolando "the man" Guiterrez, printed by, anybody with an inkjet lol.
Think i got a sheet of them somewhere, cant recall.

Lee

imaginager

Also, hand-painted.

ralphee

Apologies Allan, yes you did brush your marking, fine job too.
Never could figure if the marking was in fact a kit decal, or painted like Allans.
I did run through so many aircraft thinking it was a fin logo, never could find its true origin.

Lee

MonsieurTox

I hand-painted mine too, I really think it was handpainted on the original !

Guy Cowen

Its great reading through al the info and opinions, keep em all coming. I think as I nearly have all the kits now I'm going to start the head next week. I'm going down the route that Lee and Julien have gone and have a crack t scratching the head.

Just a few kits to go


I very nice array of parts.