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Discussion on ESB AT-ST within the Studio Scale Models forum, part of the MODELS category; Originally Posted by MonsieurTox I'm happy with mine too tbh,

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Old 10-11-2011, 04:55 PM   #51
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I'm happy with mine too tbh, but since we have the kit in hands... hard to resist ! However I bought the SU-100 to replace the scratchbuilt toes but I never replaced it lol I'm affraid to not be able to match the color and weathering of the feet.
Do it mate, its such a small detail, only you would notice tonal differences
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Old 10-15-2011, 02:04 PM   #52
 
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I've been sorting through my box of parts and trying to track down the last few I have not yet harvested. Can someone point me in the direction of this part?



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Airfix 1/24 ME 109 handsome man....sorry, lads here just had Transformers on Scott lol.

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Airfix 1/24 ME 109 handsome man....sorry, lads here just had Transformers on Scott lol.

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Hope its on Loud mate?
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Hope its on Loud mate?
You'll have a speak up young man, my ears arent what they used to be .

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Geez. Thanks Lee. I don't know how I missed that last week when I was looking through that kit.
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Part C came from the Sd Kfz 223 guys. This came about, well it was kinda my fault more like.

In the movie still of the walker, you CAN see a part hanging off the BACK, of what me and Allan felt should be an untrimmed M5A1 fender, i kept seeing this and it was bugging the hell outta me, so Allan came up with this array.

Pretty sure the ILM M5A1 part must have had a clean break in this area, but check out the Chronicles pic, there does seem to be an extra piece during the shoot!

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Sorry guys...just trying to clarify. Wasn't part C from the M3 Lee? You would know best, Lee, since you id'd it but I was just wondering if the 223 you mentioned was a mistake and you meant another kit. The parts in Allen's build look like the M3 Lee parts. Please verify, sir. Thanks!!!

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You are probably right Scott, im getting old buddy . I do forget LOTS lately.

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You are probably right Scott, im getting old buddy . I do forget LOTS lately.

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I'll say forgetful...you can't even remember who you are responding to.

I must admit I was scratching my head looking in the 223 for those parts. Thanks Joe. I'll dig out my M3 this evening.

I haven't had any time to do much work. I've got plastruct on the way. Guy pointed out to me that I had the wrong dishes for the cheeks...stupid $20 minimum. We should start a pool order where everyone who only needs one or two parts can team up to meet the minimum.

I think I may have found another part. I shared with a couple of people to get their opinions. Since they think it looks good here it is. I trimmed the part and drilled the hole out to 3/32".



I've been hitting the kit scans to try and find the parts for the inner right thigh. I've found a couple of close-but-not-its in the F1 kits. The part screams trailer hitch to me...or maybe an axle support of some kind. No luck so far. Is anything known about the flat part that it and the F109 part sit on?

I have also been staring at the the front of the upper leg where the Titan part sits. Did everyone use the wheel part from one of the AMT trucks or trailers? They seem a perfect fit for the 8rad part. I've been trying to tell what is under there, but I just can't decide if I am looking at kit details or glue blobs.

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I'll say forgetful...you can't even remember who you are responding to.
I wasn't going to say anything but I thought it was funny, too! BTW, I always thought it was cool how Lee found the Lee part. Too immature?

You're proposed Flak38 part looks close but remember that there are what appears to be weld lines on the opposite end. Also, I'm a firm believer that ILM didn't go out of their way too often to modify small parts like this. But I could be wrong.

The inner right thigh part(s) is something I've been working on as well. I actually just manipulated some ref pics in Photoshop to try and bring the detail out of the shadows. In the SS model ref, the raised part appears to be sitting on a small base that then sits on the long flat mystery part. I suspected the 1/30 Bandai Hummel part below (which is a kit scan taken by Jase that I borrowed from his site) but it just doesn't look right. On the Hummel part, the raised cylinders are too off-centered compared to what I think I see in the ref.



I also thought of using the AMT truck rim for the upper left leg part. Pretty much all the trucks...C600, Fruehaufs, Titan....fit with the 8-rad. However, the reference does not show the lip at the base of the rim as seen on all the kits.

And lastly, on a side note. For anyone looking at the Fruehauf part that sits on the Karl parts. It is in fact from the Fruehauf Flatbed as pointed out to me by Allan and Julien in Guy's thread. I just wanted to mention this to those who want uber accuracy. The same radius rods in the Fruehauf Tanker do not have the push pin markings like on the Flatbed. Anyway...

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LOL, guys ive only just noticed what i did, ohhh boy, now im getting senile too....ill be in diapers next....sorry Joe .

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Hehe!!! No, problem, Lee!
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I wasn't going to say anything but I thought it was funny, too! BTW, I always thought it was cool how Lee found the Lee part. Too immature?
Are you calling me immature? We are probably all still 11 years old at heart. Admit it, fart jokes are still funny.

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You're proposed Flak38 part looks close but remember that there are what appears to be weld lines on the opposite end. Also, I'm a firm believer that ILM didn't go out of their way too often to modify small parts like this. But I could be wrong.
Weld lines, or glue blobs in shadows? It seems to me ILM moded pieces all of the time. Even when there is no need. Look at the claw on the Nebelwerfer part on this same leg. Look at the 38mm Flak guns, all cut up and glued back together with the 88mm Flak part in between. Look at the vents on the rear of the 8rad pod. If you really start to think about it the list can go on for a while. Which leads me to the truck wheel rims, it probably cannot be proven, but it is not too hard to sand that lip down. The ILM model makers were artists in their own way. They didn't always do things the quick, easy way.

Your Hummel part looks almost exactly like a part in the F109. The 109 part does not sit on a flat base though. I don't know the part number, mine was loose in the kit and I haven't bothered to find it in the instructions.

I have the tanker and flatbed. I had them mixed up earlier and Julien set me straight.
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Oh, no, I was asking if my "Lee finding the Lee part" joke was too immature.

As far as the Nebelwerfer leg...are you talking about the piece of material missing from the tiny "latch" that points down? Hmmm...never noticed that.

I hear you, I guess what I mean is that I believe they wouldn't have gone out of their way for a part that appears to have no purpose other than to dress the model up. But you are right, this model is strange all around. Not ruling anything out.

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Oh, no, I was asking if my "Lee finding the Lee part" joke was too immature.
I know, I was just goofing around.
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:40 PM   #66
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Scott, I hear ya on the plastruct orders, I think both me and Lee kept them afloat this year with the probe droids, every time I ordered something I realised I needed something else, this just went on and on and on and on. I even put a big order in direct with them and thought of everything I could....cough, cough....not a chance. Its a perpetual money burner , all for a good cause though.
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Long time, no update. Making some progress now, but I work slow.

I wanted a pic of all the unmodified parts before I started building. Doh! I forgot the Fruhauf trailer parts and the C-600 rails. Oh well, no going back now.

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So, as my naked armature has been to the last couple of North Texas prop parties I wanted to show a little progress this year. Here is the rear head:

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This is the same test head from post #1, it was trimmed too thin and too short. My rear head plate will not fit in it, but it will on the next set I trim. I decided to use it to test fit some kit parts before I cut a second one. All of the kit parts on it are easily removable.







The whole right gun assembly is held on with magnets right now. It started as an 'I wonder...' but looks pretty good and allows some movement.



And since it seems like anyone working on an AT-ST has to do Probe Droid pods...


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Happy to see others getting their babies going.
LOVE the parts layout pic.
Pardon my memory, but did I help with your vac pulls or did you do those yourself? I feel like I sent you a set, but I didn't do "ears" by themselves.
Sad to hear the head is short...the shaping looks pretty damned good.
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this thread was a little dusty so I had to go back and review. realized I needed to give Scott a big thank you. I cut up the B-28 part for the foot shroud. Took me a few nights of adjusting the shape just right, but think I got the shrouds just right. Oddly enough, I haven't taken any pix of them. Just wanted to thank you Scott for the find -- much happier knowing my chicken has his REAL shoes on.
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Happy to see others getting their babies going.
LOVE the parts layout pic.
Pardon my memory, but did I help with your vac pulls or did you do those yourself? I feel like I sent you a set, but I didn't do "ears" by themselves.
Sad to hear the head is short...the shaping looks pretty damned good.
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You did send me a set of yours, but I decided to see how my kitchen rig would measure up to the pro you used. I think the main difference was I was nicer to my bucks than he was to yours. You also did some number crunching with me. The design of my buck is heavily based on your drawings.

The shortness of the head is easily fixed by cutting up another pull. I used the wrong template when I cut this one. I designed the buck to have extra all the way around, so, don't be too sad, it will work out. I just decided to use this one to test fit the parts to see where I might want to modify the trim for next time. Plus, I wanted to take it to the prop party and didn't have much time to get it ready.

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I''ve been resin casting some parts. Most of them came out pretty good. Several sets to spare, I will need to startup a junkyard thread.









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Man, that looks awesome, Scott! I need to make copies as well. Hey, what are the two Ferrari parts at the very top of the 2nd pic for?


And what's up with these North Texas Party's? I'm in Abilene and I like to party!

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They're from the the heads rear plate, scroll up to the pic above of Scott's build and you'll see them cast in white.

Glad to see your on this again Scott and hows your build coming along Joe?

Finally I got some work done on mine tonight, nearly 4 months since I touched it.
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