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    Oct 19, 2011 - The Enterprise Restoration Project #1

    Ok,
    So back on September 8th 2011 (the 45th Anniversary of the premier of STAR TREK), The Facebook page of the National Air and Space Museum put up this photo of the original 11 foot ENTERPRISE.



    They also posted a blurb celebrating STAR TREK and the model in their gift shop. I can’t stand the changes that Ed made to the ship, but worse than that, in the twenty years since her last restoration new damage can be seen on the model and working in the F-15 community, I know that for every problem you can see there is almost certainly more substantial damage you can’t see.

    I politely posted something about the ship needing a restoration on NASM’s Facebook page only to have it disappear within a matter of minutes.

    “The USS Enterprise (in the gift shop of NASM) is in dire need of repair (her support struts are buckling, and the bridge on top of her saucer are showing damage among other problems), and also desperately requires restoration to her original appearance. The restoration performed by Ed Miarecki added details that were NEVER present on that model, damaging the miniature in the process. With the 50th anniversary of STAR TREK only five years away, we need to begin restoring this important icon.”

    I posted the same message several more times only to have them erased as I watched. Later that night, I shared NASM’s post and photo along with my stated desire to see the ENTERPRISE properly restored with Mike and Denise Okuda’s Facebook page, and found myself in a discussion regarding the merits of pursuing a full restoration. They at first defended Ed Miarecki’s “heavy handed” air brushing, but then I posted pictures of some of the changes he made to some of the small signage on the ship (placing ILM style jokes where warnings had been on the original model, and so forth), and that got some attention. The discussion continued to the point where I said that if I had to do something to get the old girl restored, I would and even went as far as to suggest my dream team of sorts to carry out such a restoration. In fact what I posted was…

    “Regardless, the model is currently in poor shape, and in need of a restoration, so why not take the time to do it now before any further damage? I know of quite a few very knowledgeable people who would love to assist in such an effort. I for one would choose a dream consisting of Steve Neill with assistance from Doug Drexler, and the occasional note or hundred from you. That would be ideal, and exciting! Cheers!”

    Feeling bad about name dropping Steve without talking to him first, as soon as I was finished talking to Mike and Denise, I messaged Steve who called me right away. I made an new friend instantly, and within a day Steve had called Doug Drexler who sent me an email, and we’ve been rolling ever since.

    More in a bit, I have a diaper to change. Sorry. First baby and all.

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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #2

    I'm in support for sure and I attempted a small personal effort at one time to draw attention to this some years ago. I had even met personally the NASM curator of that section that contains the model.

    Perhaps things have changed since then, but the executive summary was this...

    A big donor has to want this done. They have their hands full at the NASM to say the least.

    Like a Paul Allen type perhaps, which I also tried to contact.

    Though times change, and a big fan effort should never be eliminated as being successful.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #3

    Now that's a studio scale model!

    And a one-of-a-kind cultural treasure that deserves nothing less than the kind of restoration you guys are discussing here. Good luck fellas.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #4

    Would that have been The Smithsonian's Dr. Margaret Weitekamp?

    Did you try Mr. Allen through VULCAN INC?
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #5

    Good luck with that. Dealing with the government isn't very easy.

    I figured the original E is a lost cause, which is one reason why I'm building my own ships.

    It's going to require major rework, you can't just restore it. The structure would need to be augmented. I wouldn't rely on the 45+ year old woodwork.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #6

    John Cooley said: View Post
    Would that have been The Smithsonian's Dr. Margaret Weitekamp?

    Did you try Mr. Allen through VULCAN INC?
    Yes to the former, for the latter I tried through his museum.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #7

    It can be done, you will have to have patience though.

    First you need to get the money in place to show them you are serious then you can go from there
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #8

    I'd love to know how anyone thought even half the stuff done to that model was acceptable. I mean, replacing detailed signage decals with lame jokes?
    Restoring ≠ changing
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #9

    Why anyone with any reverence or respect for a cultural icon like the Enterprise would think it acceptable to replace the original signage with lame jokes of their own making is beyond me.
    It smacks of the worst kind of hubris in my opinion.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #10

    Good luck John. Anything I can do to help let me know. I hate to point it out but the windows on the rim of the saucer on your restoration project logo are not correct, lol (but seriously, they're not I think there were only two windows there on that side)
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #11

    trekriffic said: View Post
    Why anyone with any reverence or respect for a cultural icon like the Enterprise would think it acceptable to replace the original signage with lame jokes of their own making is beyond me.
    It smacks of the worst kind of hubris in my opinion.
    I met Ed Miarecki a few times many years ago at a local Sci Fi model Club, we were both members,( I still am, he's not)I was always struck by his arrogant demeanor, as if our model work was lesser than his simply because he worked in the industry. In his mind I am sure he thought, I just made the Enterprise better than the guys who designed and built it. I can't wait to see it done correctly.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #12

    Captain April said: View Post
    ... In his mind I am sure he thought, I just made the Enterprise better than the guys who designed and built it...
    Made it 'better' than Matt Jeffries original work? Not possible.
    Seriously need to get Doug Drexler, Greg Jein and the guys who worked on the model for DS9's Trials and Tribble-ations involved in the restoration
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #13

    Doug's all in (though he's up to his eyeballs in Blood and Chrome right now). And we're currently waiting to hear back from Greg as he was actually all of our first pick to head the physical restoration team with Steve as either his lieutenant or co-consul (that's up to the two of them). Greg's nine day wonder is something that we all remembered and Doug was adamant the Greg was key to our effort.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #14

    I wholeheartedly approve this effort. Miarecki's repaint is pretty galling to look at. I didn't know about the jokes. Could someone describe them?

    So, now that the team is assembling, has the NASM responded? Are there any rumblings of support from within the Smithsonian?
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #15

    while I certaily can see the woodwork of the original needing soem help I can see a restoration being successful. However as Steve did with his 1/2 scale model a support harness needs to be included. I'm thinking thick acrylic supports so you can see the mode even as its being supported.

    Just a thought.

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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #16

    Hawt damn!

    I too support this effort 110%. Steve is definitely the right man to have involved in this project, given his awe-inspiring half-scale studio Enterprise he just finished up.

    It'd be great to have the desired "dream team" work together on getting the original grand ol' lady restored to her proper glory. Can't believe Ed went ahead and altered some of the surface details.

    That smacks of total disrespect to those who built her in the first place, imho.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #18

    Destructor1701 said: View Post
    I wholeheartedly approve this effort. Miarecki's repaint is pretty galling to look at. I didn't know about the jokes. Could someone describe them?
    From the IDIC page:

    "As well documented on The IDIC Page, the original USS Enterprise studio model underwent an overhaul at the Smithsonian Institution National Air and Space Museum (NASM) during December 1991-January 1992. This was in preparation for the NASM's 1992-93 Star Trek exhibition. The model was renovated by model-maker, Ed Miarecki, who we consider to be one of the finest model/prop makers in or out of Hollywood. During the exhibit, we noticed that the original "Tail Pipe Socket Adjustment Access" sign decal, just below the starboard pylon on the secondary hull, had been removed. The first photo below shows the original "Tail Pipe" sign, and the second photo shows the Miarecki-renovated model without the sign.





    Now comes this photo from the 1992 display, courtesy of Frank Allen, which shows that the original "Inspection Door Vent Systems Connection" decal on the lower saucer section was replaced with a "joke" sign, which says, "Do Not Read This Sign!" We asked Ed Miarecki about this, who responded, "I never believed that those little signs were original to the model, since the model was repainted by NASM (during a previous renovation)...if you have evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it."



    Well, the only evidence we have are copies of the original decal sheets for the 11-foot Enterprise model. These decal sheets have mini signs, such as "Inspection Door Vent Systems Connections," "Tail Pipe Socket Adjustment Access," as well as numerous others, which are identical to the one shown in the 1982 photo. The NASM never had access to the original decal sheets, which The IDIC Page got from a former Desilu/Paramount employee who obtained the sheets during 1972. To our knowledge, these decal sheets are the only surviving originals for the 11-foot model, which had been stored by the owner in a closet for 25 years. Further description of the original decal sheets is shown on this page: The IDIC Page - Original Enterprise Decal Sheets.

    Hopefully, the original signs can be re-applied to the model during the next NASM renovation. Incidentally, the "joke" signs were removed from the model for the NASM's year 2000 exhibition."


    So, if I read this right, it sounds as if during the 1982 renovation, the renovators painted around the original signage as they had no access to the original decals and it certainly would appear to be the case as the paint behind and around the original lettering definitely looks to be older and more weathered than the paint used for the rest of the hull. It also sounds like Ed Miarecki arbitrarily decided that the signage wasn't original and this gave him carte blanche to eliminate or alter them.
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    Oct 19, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #19

    It is a shame they did this and it should be put back as it was. Things go into the Smithsonian to be preserved for everyone to see and study. Unfortunately they have a track record of screwing up restorations. The Enola Gay comes to mind. Hopefully they will listen and do the right thing.
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    Oct 20, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #20

    I've posted this before.

    Please add it to the punch list.
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    Oct 20, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #21

    Oh, no worries it's on the list. In fact, I've had that very picture collage on my desktop for awhile now. That's been a perfect example of the personal style choices Ed made. He really treated that model like it was his to play with.
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    Oct 20, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #22

    I've seen that picture a lot. Could someone please explain to me what the difference is?
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    Oct 20, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #23

    These are some pictures I took in April 2009. The first one shows some damage to the back of the nacelle, and in the bottom one you can make out where the tail pipe sign used to be.
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    Oct 20, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #24

    trekman1017 said: View Post
    I've seen that picture a lot. Could someone please explain to me what the difference is?
    I hate to admit it, but I can't really see what MAX is illustrating by the pictures alone. I can see the damage on the "linear accelerator" (I think that is what it is called). I just can't make out what changed when it was placed back on the model. Max, can you please point out what might be obvious to everyone else? Unless it's the very tip which appears to be flat in the before restoration and rounded afterwards.

    Thanks,
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    Oct 20, 2011 - Re: The Enterprise Restoration Project #25

    Hope this happens - the ship as is now, is NOT the Enterprise in all her original Matt Jeffries glory & genious. As Picard would say - "Make it so"
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