EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage

FANTAMATION · 10-19-2011, 03:42 PM

Well, I guess this was inevitable, since stop-motion is my passion and I've been doing these puppet replicas for awhile now it was just a matter of time before I got around to actually using one for some experimental animation. First off I hope the mods don't mind me posting this here since I'm using a studio scale model for this project in the same way that the original filming model was used. What I hope to achieve is to match the look and feel of the original as best I can while using the same basic methods of the original only on a shoestring budget.
Now, ESB is one of my favorite films of all time but there was always one little, tiny thing that bugged me just a tad. Now I'm probably the only one who has ever let this bother them but, I've always wondered how that huge Wampa was ever able to just pop up outta nowhere and take Luke out. Sooooo, I've come up with a couple of shots that I've always wanted to see and hopefully will help explain that a tad more...... if not then oh well, it'll just be an exercise in fun!
I'll go into what those shots will be later but for now I need to concentrate on getting the miniature set finished and getting the Taun puppet detailing done. I'm gonna be using a very crude, homemade puppet mover rig based on what the original ILM rig could do.... only totally manually. I'll go further into details later but I just wanted to throw this project out there hoping that it's in the right forum, please feel free to move if necessary. I've attached a pic of my set-up as it stands right now, more to come....... slowly!
I must be outta my mind!!

-... . .- --.. · 10-19-2011, 03:48 PM

What a cool project!

Certainly gets my vote to keep it in Studio Scale Modeling. +1 as the kids like to say...

Guy Cowen · 10-19-2011, 03:56 PM

Really Really looking forward to this Jim mate, especially as the Taun is somewhat close to my heart (soon) Cough!!

I know you will knock this out of the park, I understand now why you want to use the Luke puppet as well...makes sense.

Will the Wampa be Gorilla shaped by any chance?? Now that would be cool to see Kong take a shot at Luke....only joking.

Its about time we all see the true fruit of your work mate, not only a beyond talented artist but a stop mo film maker also. I'm really really excited mate.

ralphee · 10-19-2011, 04:20 PM

Its bonafide studio scale for me too Jim, eager to see what you can do, i LOVE anything that surrounds Hoth scenarios.

Wanna build a big crater for a droid to pop out while your at it lol.

Lee

FANTAMATION · 10-19-2011, 05:23 PM

Thanks for the votes of confidence, I'm sure gonna try my best as this is something I've wanted to do for soooo very long, to get back to my first love..... traditional FX work. Be patient with me as I can only squeak in spare time work on this amidst my commissioned work which takes priority.

joez2391 · 10-19-2011, 06:41 PM

this is really cool! i always was interested in the use of stopmotion in the star wars movies and it will be really awesome to see your process, especially since you are recreating your own scene! Good luck will be watching closely

DaddyfromNaboo · 10-20-2011, 02:22 AM

That is truly an awesome project! Can´t wait to see the result, real dedication there!!!

Ghost Host · 10-20-2011, 05:24 PM

This is just pure fun and what the hobby is all about to me!

OTnROTSfan · 10-24-2011, 04:31 PM

Now that's cool, Jim. While I had a blast posing the Taun and Luke for my small dio and a few pics, I was too chicken to try to actually film something with mine. I'm still completely impressed with the wide range of motion it has.

Can't wait to see how this turns out. That's just plain fun!

hankey01 · 10-24-2011, 04:40 PM

I wonder if Adywan needs any Tauntaun footage for his edit of Empire...

Colin Droidmilk · 10-25-2011, 02:40 AM

Very good idea, this.

I'm intrigued generally by the notion of filming all our SS models. After all, they are film-making TOOLS... sitting there on stands just waiting for cameras and lights... Plus ILM only got to do a small fraction of the shot possibilities...

Spankuh · 10-25-2011, 02:04 PM

Can't wait to see this progress!

HH

cdrake · 10-26-2011, 01:54 PM

Looks awesome! Great idea. Keep it up.

mbmcfarland · 11-04-2011, 04:20 PM

Are you doing this with a solid silicone model, or did you cast this one differently? Really looking forward to seeing it in action!

FANTAMATION · 11-04-2011, 04:39 PM

It's cast the same as the others, I've also got the Wampa's lair entrance made and it's just awaiting a coating of snow...... pics coming soon

catch · 11-05-2011, 05:05 AM

Can't wait

!

Guy Cowen · 11-05-2011, 07:07 AM

Really looking forward to this mate

Bootlegger137 · 11-05-2011, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FANTAMATION

pics coming soon

Tease. Can't wait to see them!

IEDBOUNTYHUNTER · 11-05-2011, 07:56 AM

Yeah you tease, direct me to this thread, and now i got to wait. Thats just wrong.

FANTAMATION · 11-09-2011, 04:36 PM

Ok, here's what I've got so far on the Wampa's lair entrance set piece, keep in mind this will be set up as a layered perspective shot so there will be more pieces in the foreground and background with this lair entrance in the middle..... the entire set-up will also be elevated more above the tabletop, I just have the set piece floating here for the pic, also the last brighter pic is just to show that there is detail inside the cave as well. I also have yet to add the stalagtites and mites..... stay tuned

Scott Graham · 11-09-2011, 06:02 PM

What if you give the shots to adywan to put in his special edit of ESB?

FANTAMATION · 11-11-2011, 04:03 PM

Well, I'm just doing this for my own pleasure and it's going to be an animation exercise giving me some much needed practice before venturing further with personal film projects that I've got planned for the future.
After I add a bit more detail to the lair entrance piece, next up will be starting the Wampa stop-motion puppet..... and the fun continues!

IEDBOUNTYHUNTER · 11-12-2011, 08:47 AM

Wampa. Puppet now thats something i wouldnt mind having, if you offer one put me down for that.

Al

FANTAMATION · 12-19-2011, 07:36 PM

The Wampa armature FINALLY arrived, now I just have to find some time to start blocking out the sculpture...... stay tuned

IEDBOUNTYHUNTER · 12-20-2011, 07:57 PM

Sweet, i love this one.

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10-19-2011, 03:42 PM	#1
FANTAMATION Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 237	EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Well, I guess this was inevitable, since stop-motion is my passion and I've been doing these puppet replicas for awhile now it was just a matter of time before I got around to actually using one for some experimental animation. First off I hope the mods don't mind me posting this here since I'm using a studio scale model for this project in the same way that the original filming model was used. What I hope to achieve is to match the look and feel of the original as best I can while using the same basic methods of the original only on a shoestring budget. Now, ESB is one of my favorite films of all time but there was always one little, tiny thing that bugged me just a tad. Now I'm probably the only one who has ever let this bother them but, I've always wondered how that huge Wampa was ever able to just pop up outta nowhere and take Luke out. Sooooo, I've come up with a couple of shots that I've always wanted to see and hopefully will help explain that a tad more...... if not then oh well, it'll just be an exercise in fun! I'll go into what those shots will be later but for now I need to concentrate on getting the miniature set finished and getting the Taun puppet detailing done. I'm gonna be using a very crude, homemade puppet mover rig based on what the original ILM rig could do.... only totally manually. I'll go further into details later but I just wanted to throw this project out there hoping that it's in the right forum, please feel free to move if necessary. I've attached a pic of my set-up as it stands right now, more to come....... slowly! I must be outta my mind!! Attached Thumbnails

10-19-2011, 03:48 PM	#2
-... . .- --.. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 3,519	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage What a cool project! Certainly gets my vote to keep it in Studio Scale Modeling. +1 as the kids like to say...

10-19-2011, 03:56 PM	#3
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,582	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Really Really looking forward to this Jim mate, especially as the Taun is somewhat close to my heart (soon) Cough!! I know you will knock this out of the park, I understand now why you want to use the Luke puppet as well...makes sense. Will the Wampa be Gorilla shaped by any chance?? Now that would be cool to see Kong take a shot at Luke....only joking. Its about time we all see the true fruit of your work mate, not only a beyond talented artist but a stop mo film maker also. I'm really really excited mate.

10-19-2011, 04:20 PM	#4
ralphee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Birmingham,England. Posts: 4,614	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Its bonafide studio scale for me too Jim, eager to see what you can do, i LOVE anything that surrounds Hoth scenarios. Wanna build a big crater for a droid to pop out while your at it lol. Lee

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10-19-2011, 05:23 PM	#5
FANTAMATION Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 237	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Thanks for the votes of confidence, I'm sure gonna try my best as this is something I've wanted to do for soooo very long, to get back to my first love..... traditional FX work. Be patient with me as I can only squeak in spare time work on this amidst my commissioned work which takes priority.

10-19-2011, 06:41 PM	#6
joez2391 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 157	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage this is really cool! i always was interested in the use of stopmotion in the star wars movies and it will be really awesome to see your process, especially since you are recreating your own scene! Good luck will be watching closely

10-20-2011, 02:22 AM	#7
DaddyfromNaboo RPF Staff - Formerly ManfromNaboo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 9,006	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage That is truly an awesome project! Can´t wait to see the result, real dedication there!!!

10-20-2011, 05:24 PM	#8
Ghost Host Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,078	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage This is just pure fun and what the hobby is all about to me!

10-24-2011, 04:31 PM	#9
OTnROTSfan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI (US) Posts: 133	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Now that's cool, Jim. While I had a blast posing the Taun and Luke for my small dio and a few pics, I was too chicken to try to actually film something with mine. I'm still completely impressed with the wide range of motion it has. Can't wait to see how this turns out. That's just plain fun!

10-24-2011, 04:40 PM	#10
hankey01 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: High River (Smallville), Alberta Posts: 1,332	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage I wonder if Adywan needs any Tauntaun footage for his edit of Empire...

10-25-2011, 02:40 AM	#11
Colin Droidmilk Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Greece Posts: 1,313	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Very good idea, this. I'm intrigued generally by the notion of filming all our SS models. After all, they are film-making TOOLS... sitting there on stands just waiting for cameras and lights... Plus ILM only got to do a small fraction of the shot possibilities...

10-25-2011, 02:04 PM	#12
Spankuh Spank 'em if ya got 'em Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Greenwich, RI Posts: 174	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Can't wait to see this progress! HH

10-26-2011, 01:54 PM	#13
cdrake Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 22	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Looks awesome! Great idea. Keep it up.

11-04-2011, 04:20 PM	#14
mbmcfarland Advacnded Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 813	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Are you doing this with a solid silicone model, or did you cast this one differently? Really looking forward to seeing it in action!

11-04-2011, 04:39 PM	#15
FANTAMATION Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 237	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage It's cast the same as the others, I've also got the Wampa's lair entrance made and it's just awaiting a coating of snow...... pics coming soon

11-05-2011, 05:05 AM	#16
catch Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 83	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Can't wait !

11-05-2011, 07:07 AM	#17
Guy Cowen Guy Staff Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,582	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Really looking forward to this mate

11-05-2011, 07:56 AM	#19
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER Modelmaker for Hire Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TexASS Posts: 876	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Yeah you tease, direct me to this thread, and now i got to wait. Thats just wrong.

11-09-2011, 04:36 PM	#20
FANTAMATION Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 237	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Ok, here's what I've got so far on the Wampa's lair entrance set piece, keep in mind this will be set up as a layered perspective shot so there will be more pieces in the foreground and background with this lair entrance in the middle..... the entire set-up will also be elevated more above the tabletop, I just have the set piece floating here for the pic, also the last brighter pic is just to show that there is detail inside the cave as well. I also have yet to add the stalagtites and mites..... stay tuned Attached Thumbnails

11-09-2011, 06:02 PM	#21
Scott Graham Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,021	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage What if you give the shots to adywan to put in his special edit of ESB?

11-11-2011, 04:03 PM	#22
FANTAMATION Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 237	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Well, I'm just doing this for my own pleasure and it's going to be an animation exercise giving me some much needed practice before venturing further with personal film projects that I've got planned for the future. After I add a bit more detail to the lair entrance piece, next up will be starting the Wampa stop-motion puppet..... and the fun continues!

11-12-2011, 08:47 AM	#23
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER Modelmaker for Hire Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TexASS Posts: 876	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Wampa. Puppet now thats something i wouldnt mind having, if you offer one put me down for that. Al

12-19-2011, 07:36 PM	#24
FANTAMATION Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 237	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage The Wampa armature FINALLY arrived, now I just have to find some time to start blocking out the sculpture...... stay tuned Attached Thumbnails

12-20-2011, 07:57 PM	#25
IEDBOUNTYHUNTER Modelmaker for Hire Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TexASS Posts: 876	Re: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Additional Animation Footage Sweet, i love this one.

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