Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread

Hammer3246 · 10-13-2011, 08:17 PM

Duh...sorry, I went through your new post at 6 this morning.

I never was much of a reader, but I sure like looking at pictures

Bigturc · 10-13-2011, 08:28 PM

loll .. way to go! I got plenty of those!!!

Bigturc · 10-14-2011, 07:13 PM

joewhite · 10-14-2011, 10:28 PM

Dude, it is looking really nice! Hey I haven't gotten a chance to to a test with parts on the extensions. I don't have a Rodney except for the built one I have. So, I don't have the barrels but I do have the antenna. I found some .032" rod so I will tack it and the Rodney antenna on for size. I'll post pics tomorrow morning'ish.

Again, you're build is looking fantastic!

joewhite · 10-15-2011, 11:57 PM

Ok, morning'ish turned in night'ish....my bad!

Here is my test with .75mm (appx .032") rod. The new extension in the pic is 13mm all around. However, you are looking at the 8mm peaking over the edge of the wings. I also stuck the unmodified B10 part from the Rodney. I modified it in Photoshop to check the measurements. The .75mm rod looks good to my eye. However, the "modified" B10 looks to be about .5-1mm too far from the edge.

The way I figure it right now is that the modified Rodney gun barrel (not pictured) is roughly 3mm. Can someone measure this for me....maybe a measurement of the base (the axe looking side). All the barrels in my kit are glued onto the gun house. I really need to just break down and buy the damn kit already!

I'm kicking myself in the ass because I should have listened to you, Al, when you identified the proper measurements of the extensions earlier in your thread!

I think this is really close. With the AMT TIE wings not being completely straight, I think we can take comfort in knowing that things won't look perfectly straight even of we take every measure to makes things so. Unless you sand the wing edges. But since I doubt ILM did that, I won't either.

What do you think?

Oh yeah...go Rangers!

Joe

vinylcapejawa · 11-02-2011, 10:22 AM

Geez this is really looking awesome.

Bigturc · 11-02-2011, 10:41 AM

Thanks vinylcapjawa!

Joe, 0.75mm is 0.030" rods while 0.032" is 0.8mm .. so I'm curious, which one did you use, the 0.025"(0.6mm), 0.030"(0.75mm) or 0.035"(0.9mm)?

I was looking at my pic, and something seemed ackward and wrong for my tubes. I realised that I didn't align them properly when I glued the pilot tube to the bar. And since the 4 greeblies on the bar were installed after, I took a deep breath, pulled them off, and twisted the tube until the glue broke and I could replace it. Lil sanding here and there and installed back the greeblies!!

Much better now!!! Advice to others, make sure to align the tubes properly before fixing them permanently. Lucky for me, I didn't go to heavy on ca glue!!! Yikes!

The wings will be next. I'll probably strip some material like we discussed, it makes them look much less bulky!

joewhite · 11-02-2011, 10:59 AM

That's a lot of big breaths there, buddy, take it easy, ok?

I must have done my math wrong. But I used .032". It looks about right. Course, I still need to measure those Rodney guns. I know I've been saying that I need to buy it for a while.

Joe

Bigturc · 11-02-2011, 11:03 AM

LOL .. Joe .. edited!

As soon as I have more time to spend on the Bomber, I'll take pictures of that part for you!

As a side note, what's left for me is redo the Bomb arm and install it, pu tthe rods and greeblies on the wing extensions after trimming them and install the Flak 38 greeblies on the tube!!

joewhite · 11-15-2011, 05:06 PM

No need to measure the Rodney barrel, Al. I finally recieved my 3 other Rodneys with unbuilt guns. I still need to get some more measurements to fully confirm, at least with myself, that the Rodney B10 was infact used. If I conclude that they weren't, oh well, I'll sell the extra Rodney's or use them as scratch-build fodder.

What does everybody else think about the B10? A few people have kinda nodded in favor of it but I'd still like to hear more thoughts, especially from the veteran Bomber builders.

Joe

Tsophika · 11-16-2011, 05:51 AM

I'd say your Rodney ID is right on.

joewhite · 11-18-2011, 05:21 PM

Aw, ****, Tsophika! That's looks awesome! I almost shed a tear of joy...lol! So did you already know about these parts?

Joe

Tsophika · 11-18-2011, 10:48 PM

Nope, I only just got the kit a couple of weeks ago. All the Waterline ships have very similar parts, but if you want to be precise you will need three Rodneys!

joewhite · 11-19-2011, 02:37 AM

I was like, "No, you need 4", but the first pic I open, I see the starboard wing bottom missing the bit. Doh! I bought an extra Rod! Lol!

Joe

Bigturc · 12-08-2011, 11:33 PM

Finally had some time to spend on my build!

I bit the bullet, cut my extensions to 8mm instead of 11mm (from wing edge) and it makes a huge difference!!! Now the tricky part will be to rescribe them since they're already glued but it'll come!

Here's some before and after pics with the other wing not yet done.

Ronan87 · 12-09-2011, 04:20 AM

VERY nice! Udisco is 5 mins from my place. Im often there, gotta love their selection!

Bigturc · 12-10-2011, 01:12 AM

Welcome here Ronan! Not many peeps from Quebec around here!

So, the thing that was scaring me the most in the fact that I reduced my wing extensions, was that it had originally been laser etched by Joe and now I needed to scribe them .. good thing I got that Tamiya scriber .. a life saver!!! I think they came out pretty nice too!

Also here`s how I make sure that my styrene rods are nice and straight and all at equal distance along my wings. I cut a styrene bar at width around 3mm and use it to glue my rods to the extensions. That way, everything is nice, clean and straight!

The only downside is that some of the joint for the extensions popped while rescribing .. I'll have to revisit them with more ca glue?!?

Ronan87 · 12-10-2011, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigturc

Welcome here Ronan! Not many peeps from Quebec around here!

I know! I feel VERY lonely in my model kit and prop hobby...

Bigturc · 12-10-2011, 01:56 AM

I felt alone too before I came in here .. oh no, wait .. I was not even in the building prop hobby before I came in here!!!!!

Anyway, a lot of good passionate folks in here!!

KrokoHunter · 04-25-2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigturc

Kit I found that had the proper IDs

Saturn, 25PDR and Rodney

Sorry to say this mate, but the new SatV is a retool as well ... I don't think that there are issues with the parts needed for the Bomber, but you might get into "trouble" with some other problems.

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10-13-2011, 08:17 PM	#326
Hammer3246 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 120	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Duh...sorry, I went through your new post at 6 this morning. I never was much of a reader, but I sure like looking at pictures

10-13-2011, 08:28 PM	#327
Bigturc Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 950	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread loll .. way to go! I got plenty of those!!!

10-14-2011, 07:13 PM	#328
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10-14-2011, 10:28 PM	#329
joewhite Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 394	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Dude, it is looking really nice! Hey I haven't gotten a chance to to a test with parts on the extensions. I don't have a Rodney except for the built one I have. So, I don't have the barrels but I do have the antenna. I found some .032" rod so I will tack it and the Rodney antenna on for size. I'll post pics tomorrow morning'ish. Again, you're build is looking fantastic!

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10-15-2011, 11:57 PM	#330
joewhite Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 394	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Ok, morning'ish turned in night'ish....my bad! Here is my test with .75mm (appx .032") rod. The new extension in the pic is 13mm all around. However, you are looking at the 8mm peaking over the edge of the wings. I also stuck the unmodified B10 part from the Rodney. I modified it in Photoshop to check the measurements. The .75mm rod looks good to my eye. However, the "modified" B10 looks to be about .5-1mm too far from the edge. The way I figure it right now is that the modified Rodney gun barrel (not pictured) is roughly 3mm. Can someone measure this for me....maybe a measurement of the base (the axe looking side). All the barrels in my kit are glued onto the gun house. I really need to just break down and buy the damn kit already! I'm kicking myself in the ass because I should have listened to you, Al, when you identified the proper measurements of the extensions earlier in your thread! I think this is really close. With the AMT TIE wings not being completely straight, I think we can take comfort in knowing that things won't look perfectly straight even of we take every measure to makes things so. Unless you sand the wing edges. But since I doubt ILM did that, I won't either. What do you think? Oh yeah...go Rangers! Joe

11-02-2011, 10:22 AM	#331
vinylcapejawa Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 18	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Geez this is really looking awesome.

11-02-2011, 10:41 AM	#332
Bigturc Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 950	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Thanks vinylcapjawa! Joe, 0.75mm is 0.030" rods while 0.032" is 0.8mm .. so I'm curious, which one did you use, the 0.025"(0.6mm), 0.030"(0.75mm) or 0.035"(0.9mm)? I was looking at my pic, and something seemed ackward and wrong for my tubes. I realised that I didn't align them properly when I glued the pilot tube to the bar. And since the 4 greeblies on the bar were installed after, I took a deep breath, pulled them off, and twisted the tube until the glue broke and I could replace it. Lil sanding here and there and installed back the greeblies!! Much better now!!! Advice to others, make sure to align the tubes properly before fixing them permanently. Lucky for me, I didn't go to heavy on ca glue!!! Yikes! The wings will be next. I'll probably strip some material like we discussed, it makes them look much less bulky! Last edited by Bigturc; 11-02-2011 at 11:01 AM. Reason: Less big breaths! ;)

11-02-2011, 10:59 AM	#333
joewhite Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 394	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread That's a lot of big breaths there, buddy, take it easy, ok? I must have done my math wrong. But I used .032". It looks about right. Course, I still need to measure those Rodney guns. I know I've been saying that I need to buy it for a while. Joe

11-02-2011, 11:03 AM	#334
Bigturc Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 950	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread LOL .. Joe .. edited! As soon as I have more time to spend on the Bomber, I'll take pictures of that part for you! As a side note, what's left for me is redo the Bomb arm and install it, pu tthe rods and greeblies on the wing extensions after trimming them and install the Flak 38 greeblies on the tube!!

11-15-2011, 05:06 PM	#335
joewhite Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 394	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread No need to measure the Rodney barrel, Al. I finally recieved my 3 other Rodneys with unbuilt guns. I still need to get some more measurements to fully confirm, at least with myself, that the Rodney B10 was infact used. If I conclude that they weren't, oh well, I'll sell the extra Rodney's or use them as scratch-build fodder. What does everybody else think about the B10? A few people have kinda nodded in favor of it but I'd still like to hear more thoughts, especially from the veteran Bomber builders. Joe

11-16-2011, 05:51 AM	#336
Tsophika T-16 Bush Pilot Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 123	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread I'd say your Rodney ID is right on. Attached Thumbnails

11-18-2011, 05:21 PM	#337
joewhite Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 394	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Aw, ****, Tsophika! That's looks awesome! I almost shed a tear of joy...lol! So did you already know about these parts? Joe

11-18-2011, 10:48 PM	#338
Tsophika T-16 Bush Pilot Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 123	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Nope, I only just got the kit a couple of weeks ago. All the Waterline ships have very similar parts, but if you want to be precise you will need three Rodneys!

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11-19-2011, 02:37 AM	#339
joewhite Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 394	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread I was like, "No, you need 4", but the first pic I open, I see the starboard wing bottom missing the bit. Doh! I bought an extra Rod! Lol! Joe

12-08-2011, 11:33 PM	#340
Bigturc Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 950	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Finally had some time to spend on my build! I bit the bullet, cut my extensions to 8mm instead of 11mm (from wing edge) and it makes a huge difference!!! Now the tricky part will be to rescribe them since they're already glued but it'll come! Here's some before and after pics with the other wing not yet done.

12-09-2011, 04:20 AM	#341
Ronan87 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 53	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread VERY nice! Udisco is 5 mins from my place. Im often there, gotta love their selection!

12-10-2011, 01:12 AM	#342
Bigturc Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 950	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread Welcome here Ronan! Not many peeps from Quebec around here! So, the thing that was scaring me the most in the fact that I reduced my wing extensions, was that it had originally been laser etched by Joe and now I needed to scribe them .. good thing I got that Tamiya scriber .. a life saver!!! I think they came out pretty nice too! Also here`s how I make sure that my styrene rods are nice and straight and all at equal distance along my wings. I cut a styrene bar at width around 3mm and use it to glue my rods to the extensions. That way, everything is nice, clean and straight! The only downside is that some of the joint for the extensions popped while rescribing .. I'll have to revisit them with more ca glue?!?

12-10-2011, 01:56 AM	#344
Bigturc Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 950	Re: Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread I felt alone too before I came in here .. oh no, wait .. I was not even in the building prop hobby before I came in here!!!!! Anyway, a lot of good passionate folks in here!!