5' ANH falcon same scale as Tie's and X-wing?

GF

I never really thought about this but was the 5' Falcon in scale with the X-wing, Tie's and Y- wings in ANH?

GFollano

BlackPig

Yes, I heard that they had been made from the same scale. Therefore, MF is huge.

Scott Graham

I guess the only reason to make them all in the same scale would be to because they had planned to composite them all together on one piece of film - so they would benefit from being the same scales. But in actual use, I don't think they were ever filmed together at the same time. Interesting question.

Whiskey

Not according to my build. I have a SS CC xwing, and it's pilot is significantly smaller than this 3 3/4" stormie. Even the stormie is sizing up alittle small.

JD1

Don't be fooled by the actors' appearance relative to the set pieces. The half-Falcon from ANH and the complete 80' craft built for Empire were both 2/3 scale. The cockpits weren't big enough for an adult to stand up in!

A 'real' Falcon would be 120' long. The 5-footer and the Xs, Ys and TIEs made for ANH were a consistent 1/24th scale.

Whiskey

I agree in saying the 5 footer was intended to be 1/24(as it has 1/24 seats in the cockpit). Scale of the models are subjective on your "point of view" according to on screen. At times the x-wing can be as large as half the falcon. If I took a 1/24 pilot in to the cockpit, it would look like he's sitting in an toddlers high chair.

Nwerke

Huh?? If your stormy was 1/24, he'd be 7.5 feet tall, wouldn't he?

Nwerke

Wait, what? Again I'm confused. Why would a 1/24 pilot look odd in a 1/24 chair?

Whiskey

Lol what I meant to say sitting in a chair compared to the size of the cockpit, he'd be the size of a toddler. I'm out of town, but when I get home, I can better illustrate with pics of a 1/24 pilot inside the cockpit. Basically, if you enlarged the 5 footer to lifesize, and using the cockpit seats as a base, the falcon would be so large that the loading ramp would be like a 30 foot drive way.

Nwerke

You say that like it's a bad thing.

At least the sets might fit inside! IIRC the cockpit interior set was a 10' ID tube.

Whiskey

I know! At that size, they might as well made the falcon 2 decks. . Now that would be fascinating.

clancampbell

Hey, this is pretty interesting!
keep calculating folks!

encased

As a kid even then that always bugged me watching them go up the ramp and then later on sitting in the big room with the training remote. How did that room fit in there along with a full circular walkway?

For a long time I thought that room was in the mandible. Until i got older and realized how they would cheat all the size issues. We do it all the time in animation but as a kid that confused the hell out me. Especially when playing with the Kenner toy with the room in the wrong spot to boot.

tgreco

I thought it was... based on the scene where they get in the gun turrets

Nwerke

You could call the smuggling voids a deck. Well ya could! If you wanted!

Seriously, for me it's just a non-issue. 173cm x 24 = 41.52m/136 feet.

The Falcon has to be a half-decent size in order to clamp those mandibles onto dirty great big cargo barges and shove them around at lightspeed. Similar deal to the Nostromo - the Falcon's in a different weight class but both ships are basically tugs: hugely overpowered for their size.

Stormy320

Ship of riddles.

I never realized the mandibles were for cargo, but that makes since.

Nwerke

Yeah, it's in the SW Sketchbook, and a friend of mine discussed it with Joe Johnston a couple of years back; he confirmed that was the intention. Even if the ship isn't used that way any more - its oversized engines make it perfect for smuggling, sans barge - it is still the reason for the ship having the shape it does, and the rotating cockpit.